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#1 gav240z

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 08:51 PM

http://www.bay939.co...n-freeway-blaze

 

If it's a genuine car it would definitely be a shame, even if not a genuine Phase III it would still be sad.



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Posted 14 February 2016 - 09:13 PM

Very sad for owner. There has been quite a bit on the web about this.
Most things I have seen suggest that it is (was) a freshly retored car and a genuine GT-HO III.

So a question for all classic car owners -
Who has a fire extinguisher mounted in their car & within easy reach ?

Not me, well not today.

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Posted 15 February 2016 - 08:04 AM

Very sad for owner. There has been quite a bit on the web about this.
Most things I have seen suggest that it is (was) a freshly retored car and a genuine GT-HO III.

So a question for all classic car owners -
Who has a fire extinguisher mounted in their car & within easy reach ?

Not me, well not today.

PB

I have one in the skyline but I think there is no way it would help unless it was really minor.

A few years ago at a EC track day a RX7 caught fire and it took the driver about 20secs to be flagged down to stop but even by then with 2 small extinguishers on it the fire got too large and by the time a firey got there the car was melted.



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Posted 15 February 2016 - 09:15 AM

I have one in the skyline but I think there is no way it would help unless it was really minor.

A few years ago at a EC track day a RX7 caught fire and it took the driver about 20secs to be flagged down to stop but even by then with 2 small extinguishers on it the fire got too large and by the time a firey got there the car was melted.

 

Yeah my thoughts are that an extinguisher is still a good idea but it might only help so much. Problem with rotaries in particular is they operate quite hot and so are prone to fire when maintenance items are neglected. We've all seen burnout competitions where a fire starts and a crew comes to put it out only to see it reignite of it's own accord again. This is why a good fire crew will douse the fire to the point where it looks excessive.

 

Serious question, but a fire like that is likely to destroy the car completely correct? As in that metal will now be fatigued and therefore the car cannot be restored even if money were no option is that about right?



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Posted 15 February 2016 - 01:25 PM

My understanding is that what is left is very thin and very oxidised



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Posted 15 February 2016 - 07:56 PM

Once the steel is heated to fire temperatures the tension is taken out & the steel buckles in all directions & is ruined.
I doubt that the alloy ID tags would have survived the temperatures but if they have then the best way forward for continuation of that car identity (1 of 300) IMO is a re-shell; but how legal or ethical that is, is another topic in itself. And clicks into Gav240's other recent post about "how original is original..."

Edited by gilltech, 15 February 2016 - 08:06 PM.

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Posted 15 February 2016 - 08:24 PM

With the XY Fords the engine and chassis numbers are same.
So you need :
The ID Plates (2)
The strut tower
The Block

The really bad part is that blank ID plates pop up on ebay from to time

Is it ethical, probably not, but when a replica is worth say $100K and a genuine car say $300K there is a lot of reasons to motivate people to rebirth the ID.

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Posted 16 February 2016 - 12:37 AM

Ot'll be jst like old Grandad's axe.
A new handle, a new head, another handle, and then another head.

But t's still Grandads very riginal axe.

There s a BDG engined "ex works" Ford Escort rally car, with non riginal plates that comes out to play, t s the epitome f grandpas axe.
But, it s "original",,,,,,,,

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Posted 16 February 2016 - 06:53 PM

Sources say that it was actually a very well finished replica GTHO & a thoroughly nice car.
The owner must be inconsolable in any event.




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