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#121 4evaS30

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 07:52 PM

Here is a listing of Z's I came across and then amongst these an Orange one which just made me grin ear to ear, Beauty and Beast in one!

http://buysellsearch...ars/datsun/240z

http://classiccars.c...alifornia-95742

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 08:52 AM

Then it is abit dangerous i think. it could burst like the us sub prime bubble. But as long as AU banks are strict in credit checking i think it should still be fine.
Malaysian has to pay cash for classic cars, i guess is because there is no benchmark for a classic car valuation.
Many insurance companies doesn't even provide coverage.


Slightly off topic, but I work in banking and can't help myself  :)

Lending is a bit different in Australia to the USA - the USA sub prime issue was because the loan agreements were "limited recourse" meaning that if the bank couldn't recover all their money by selling the house, it was the bank's problem.  This meant that when property prices tanked in the USA people with mortgages that were now much much higher than the value of their houses were walking into the bank with their house keys and saying "it's your problem now" and the banks could do nothing about it if they didn't get all their money back.

Australian loans are "full recourse".  If the bank has to sell your house and can't recover the full amount of the loan outstanding, you still owe the bank the balance and could go through legal processes and end up bankrupt if you can't pay back the residual balance.  So there is no option for a borrower in Australia to just walk away from a loan by handing in the mortgaged item.

That said PB's point is exactly right - Australian banks would be very reluctant to offer a "secured" personal loan where the security is a classic car.  Most personal loans that are issued by the banks are unsecured and the credit assessment is based purely on your ability to repay the loan.  The bulk of secured car finance in Australia is the dealer aligned finance on brand new cars, and structurally with those deals you are generally entering into a finance lease as opposed to a "loan" (although they're essentially the same thing).

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 09:55 AM

Here's a laugh - this US car has a "factory sunroof";
http://www.ebay.com/...26442&viewitem=

Rare Clean and solid 1973 Datsun 240 Z with factory sunroof runs and drives great.  Kept in the garage all four seasons.  Registered and has a clear title. Very unique classic sports car!


Well I suppose the sunroof was made in a factory somewhere.  ;)

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 04:41 PM

Here's a laugh - this US car has a "factory sunroof";
Well I suppose the sunroof was made in a factory somewhere.  ;)


Ughhh it's painful to see the same non-sense repeated over and over when it's clearly wrong. Like this comment here.
http://blog.hemmings...74-datsun-260z/
http://blog.hemmings...comment-8579422

Claiming the engine was a copy from Austin is a new 1 for me. I just knew when I saw the name Alan T. that there would be no response though :).

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 05:39 PM

Claiming the engine was a copy from Austin is a new 1 for me. I just knew when I saw the name Alan T. that there would be no response though :).


They've been "moderating" my posts before publishing them, cutting out some important points and scrapping anything they find perhaps a little bit too upsetting. Not that it makes much difference of course, as people read articles like that one and then use them as reference pieces for future balls-ups. It must be true, it's Hemmings - right? 

If they spent a bit more time researching and editing the article (or at least showing it to an adult...) before publishing it then things might be a bit better. Only thing they've changed is the mistake of calling Matsuo san 'Yoshiko' instead of Yoshihiko (Yoshiko being a female name...), so I suppose the "factory special order" sunroof thing is going to be repeated in future. File it with the "original G-noses were steel" / "Original G-noses were alloy" and "original headlamp covers were glass" etc etc stories.   

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 06:25 PM

My favorite is that Mr K. was some Z-car deity and without his marketing genius the S30z was destined to fail. I'm sure Mr K was a very good business man, but often too much credit is given to his influence in my opinion and the work of the design team back in Japan is often over-shadowed and or ignored.

Not sure why they moderate comments though? Seems a bit pointless.

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 08:22 PM

1974 240z £35k fully restored.
http://www.carandcla....uk/car/C639012

Hmmm same as the canberra 1971 240z 35k but different currency  ;D

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:53 AM

I found this car interesting - because I have never seen an example of a LHD 240Z being converted to RHD before.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cfec8a56c

"1973 Datsun 240z.

Complete nut and bolt restoration.
Built from the body of a genuine Californian dry state shell. (Imported personally by me).
Professionally converted to right hand drive and body prepared and painted to present one of the best 240z available today.
Work completed by one of the leading marque specialists in Europe.
Restoration completed in the summer of 2013. This is my own personal vehicle owned since 2007.
Less than a 100 miles since restoration.

Built to factory specification ,using many now unobtainable new Datsun/Nissan original components to arrive to this example ,which looks like it's just rolled out of the dealership showroom in 1973.
Using genuine period Japanese RS Watanabe wheels to enhance the look and drive of the ultimate 'Japanese Ferrari'.
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Additional info in response to an influx of similar enquiries/queries:
Body: Floor pans, hatch slam panel, sills, doors, wings, spare wheel well and rear arches etc are all original. All factory spot welds present and correct.
No rust repair work was required at all. This was a genuine unmolested original shell imported from Santa Barbara in California.
Mechanicals : Brakes completely overhauled. Engine fully rebuilt. Gear box (5 speed) rebuilt. All engine ancillaries replaced new or reconditioned. Suspension fully overhauled.
The car is just as it should be, from the Factory stereo and electric aerial and luggage straps in that back,right down to the correct zinc wire hose clamps in the engine bay."

At the time of writing - the car has had 4 bids and is at £19,500.00 (AU$41,160) - Reserve not met

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 12:05 PM

its a beautiful resto thats for sure

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 05:29 PM

I found this car interesting - because I have never seen an example of a LHD 240Z being converted to RHD before.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cfec8a56c


I've driven this car, an can vouch for it being a really beautiful car. Top notch work. A lovely thing.

I hope it goes to a good home.

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 11:00 PM

Here is one for all the haters - over $100k Type-B flares and an RB25DET! Let's not mention that dash though...

http://page13.auctio...tion/r130459575

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Just realised i posted it in the wrong place, sorry.

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 09:32 AM

but that dash!!!!!!!!!  ;)

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 10:58 AM

Yeah it's up there with all time worst dashes... Why you would use that and not an R34 Dash is beyond me...

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 11:13 AM

Yeah it's up there with all time worst dashes... Why you would use that and not an R34 Dash is beyond me...


I don't know why anyone would swap any dash into an S30z when the original design is probably 1 of the best looking dashboards of all time. That is 1 of my pet peeves with modern cars is that dashboards look so bland. I'm guessing it's an R33 dashboard? It does absolutely nothing for me.

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 02:48 PM

Maybe another thread for off-topic classic Japanese cars for sale is required? But in the interim here is a rare car.

http://www.gumtree.c...-10a/1084616352

Mazda R100 coupe

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Asking $10k - Looks like a North American car with LHD.

Very rare mazda r100 all original r100 perfect project comes with a few parts,left hand drive can be registered, for sale or swap, the car is worth big $$$ when finished
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Posted 22 July 2015 - 08:39 PM

http://www.ebay.com/...s-/291517801858

US $17,950.00 Buy It Now, seems like a decent price to me.

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1973 Datsun 240Z

Clean California title with no accident. Streight rust free frames

L24 Engine with upgraded 72 rebuilt carbs.

Upgraded 5 Speed manual transmission

New paint (Quality is about 8 out of 10)

New interior with new weatherstrips

Polished wheels with new center caps and tires

All new suspension: Shocks, front ball joints, and bushing kit

New fuel pump

New alternator

New Starter

New exhaust

Rebuilt radiator

Brand new bumpers

Engine runs strong with good compression

Transmission shifts perfectly with good clutch

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 08:45 PM

71 240z in Safari Gold. Auto.

http://www.ebay.com/...z-/171865700614

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Early 71' series 1, numbers matching, Solid original except for shocks/springs, bigger toyota brakes and Mallory electronic dist., hooker headers. It is an auto but I have pedal box for conversion,. Runs good could use a tire balance. The ONLY rust is 3 spots of bubbles. Pans, battery tray, frame rails, rear hatch are solid. Paint is a respray old, I just had it wet sanded and polished so it looks great from 10' . the saphari gold is original but may have been painted maroon or maroon may have been primer. There is a a slight color difference in the hood and fenders as compared to rest of the car. The dash is cracked have a cap but the cap is cracked. Someone glued a velvet headliner in at one time I started and got half of the glue off. All the emblems are there. the interior is in good shape except for a crack on a seam on the drivers side., some glue on headliner, and dash. chrome looks good.  Could be a driver quality not show. everything works except for tach and clock. all in all a good example of a series 1 car. would make a great driver or candidate for resto. It does leak a bit of oil at rear main seal. has all new fluids gas tank was drain and looks good. I can take video more pictures or ? let me know if you are seriously interested.    Please call with questions 828 242 6181 or email  $500 deposit due at final rest of $ at pick up . I can ship at owners  expense. I can ship world wide for small paper work fee. I certainly would encourage anyone close enough to schedule a time to see it before bidding. 



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Posted 23 July 2015 - 08:19 AM

It's funny I used to really dislike hate Jellybean mags, probably from seeing them on every second clapped out Torana with P plates on it when I was younger, but seeing them on a few Z photos lately I have come to appreciate their retro/period correct look.  It's amazing how good a Z can make things look ha ha ha.

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 09:20 AM

I was the same in that I didn't like a lot of the old Australian made cars, now of course as they have left the roads I'm happy to see 1 on the road again.

Near me a neighbor has 1 of these. Toyota Corona.
https://lh3.googleus...6Z0i43OO8-=s640

I still remember being driven to School in this car. Don't see them on the road anymore...

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 08:44 PM

Couple of rare PS30s for sale.

http://www.goo-net-e...7001/index.html

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No much more info to be gleaned from the ad, but I love the Green 907 hue and Kobe Seiko wheels. Interesting that it's missing headlight covers though.

Looks like grubby lee's might have been trying to get his dirty paws on it.


I notice it has the later style seats, I wonder if the reclining seats were an option for the 432? Or incorrect seats for this year / car?




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