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#21 Dionysus

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 11:17 AM

Just wondering whether anyone here has signed their Z up to the Classic Vehicle Scheme and if so which car club they used for membership and was blue slip needed if you were already registered??

$120 for rego and CTP is mighty appealing.

 

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http://www.rms.nsw.g...book-trial.html

 

https://www.streetma...street-machines

 

 

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 03:41 PM

Hi John,

 

I know that Cozza (Mick) has done this. Hopefully he will see this topic and enlighten you on his experience.



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Posted 29 December 2016 - 08:30 AM

Thanks, I'll shoot him a msg..



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Posted 29 December 2016 - 11:26 AM

If you can get him to add any details here, I'd appreciate that. There is a chance I'll be moving my 72 240z to NSW in the future (parents want to downsize) and I'll need to store my car elsewhere. It's currently on Victorian Registration (Historic plates).

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 08:17 AM

Yep, I have the log book scheme but don't feel I'm an expert on the subject. Hopefully others will chime in with more info.
The conditional rego allows 60 days of regular use + club sanctioned events.
To get the conditional rego you need to be a member of a participating club, I am a member of Sydney Dastun Club who also run a bunch of track and social events. Win Win!!
I can't remember if I got a blue slip but, I think different clubs have different setups where some clubs will have club members assess the car for road worthiness where others require a pink or blue slip. If you're already a member of a club, contact them to confirm if they participate in the scheme and their requirements for roadworthiness assessment.
The conditional rego has some pros and cons, where the obvious benefit is the cost of rego is significantly cheaper than normal (about $100/yr) and no need to purchase CTP insurance (green slip). Although you do pay club rego fees.
Some of the downsides
- You can't retain personalised rego plates, instead the plates are smaller than normal and start with an H + 5 digits. (I'm paying plate storage fees this year)
- The scheme currently only allows light period modifications but a modified vehicle scheme is set to start up quite soon, it may already be running???
- you've got to remember to fill out the log book before you drive, but what's worse is that it makes you realise how little you drive the car 😥 I think I've racked up 8 days since April.

Overall, as I don't use the car more than 60 days a year, and the cost benefits out weigh all the negatives, I'm gonna stick with it for the foreseeable future.

Hope that helps
Mick
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Posted 30 December 2016 - 09:05 AM

Thanks for the info Cozza..

I'm going to go ahead with the newer classic car scheme and will post some more info for others.

 

 

John

 



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Posted 30 December 2016 - 09:27 AM

Mick do you have an L28 block in your 240z? I seem to recall others having issues with what is deemed "light modification".

You're correct about the log book, I checked mine for my 72 240z, I used it 3 times so far in 2016. Granted we live in different states so maybe that's not so bad..

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 09:35 AM

Mick do you have an L28 block in your 240z? I seem to recall others having issues with what is deemed "light modification".
 

 

The newer scheme allows for these types of modifications, have a read of the street machine link I posted.



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Posted 05 January 2017 - 01:42 PM

38 days since March 2016 for my log book this year... it's kind of sad really.

 

- you've got to remember to fill out the log book before you drive, but what's worse is that it makes you realise how little you drive the car I think I've racked up 8 days since April.



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Posted 05 January 2017 - 05:41 PM

The conditional rego has some pros and cons, where the obvious benefit is the cost of rego is significantly cheaper than normal (about $100/yr) and no need to purchase CTP insurance (green slip). Although you do pay club rego fees.

If you don't have a CTP greenslip what happens if you an at fault accident and someone gets injured ?

Edited by PB260Z, 05 January 2017 - 05:41 PM.


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 06:08 PM

If you don't have a CTP greenslip what happens if you an at fault accident and someone gets injured ?


Not sure but hopefully more if on the paperwork..

Here's a paragraph from the street machine article:
"the cost in the first year is $120, which includes a one-off fee of $44 for number plates. It also includes an annual $25 administration fee to the ACMC, which is running the Classic Vehicle Scheme on behalf of the government. The annual cost includes Compulsory Third Party insurance (green slip)".

Ive filled in my application for the Sydney Datsun club and waiting on confirmation.

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:48 PM

Not sure but hopefully more if on the paperwork..
Here's a paragraph from the street machine article:
"the cost in the first year is $120, which includes a one-off fee of $44 for number plates. It also includes an annual $25 administration fee to the ACMC, which is running the Classic Vehicle Scheme on behalf of the government. The annual cost includes Compulsory Third Party insurance (green slip)".
Ive filled in my application for the Sydney Datsun club and waiting on confirmation.


Thanks, I am thinking about it for the old Chev.

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:24 PM

If you don't have a CTP greenslip what happens if you an at fault accident and someone gets injured ?


Yeah, I'm not quite sure how it works but I know the CTP is included as part of the conditional rego fee.
I'm guessing it doesn't have the perks of some CTP insurer policies though. Hopefully I'll never be in a position where I need to find out.

Mick

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:05 PM

Yeah, I'm not quite sure how it works but I know the CTP is included as part of the conditional rego fee.
I'm guessing it doesn't have the perks of some CTP insurer policies though. Hopefully I'll never be in a position where I need to find out.
Mick

Agree, hopefully we will never need to know.
Maybe it is just my risk adverse side showing through a bit, in 30+ years have never reason to need what is covered by CTP

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 08:12 AM

Maybe it is just my risk adverse side showing through a bit, in 30+ years have never reason to need what is covered by CTP
 

 

Has anyone used the green slip insurance? I've not heard of anyone among my family/friends.



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 10:48 AM

UPDATE:

The 260Z 2+2 is now on the Classic vehicle Scheme conditional rego..

I'll list in point form the process I went through to make it as straight forward as possible.

 

1/ Sign up to a ACMC affiliate club recognised by the RMS ( I used Sydney Datsun Club Inc $50/year)
2/ Print out forms 1246 & 1835 linked below
http://www.rms.nsw.g...itional-reg.pdf

http://www.rms.nsw.g...declaration.pdf

3/ If the vehicle is modified and requires an engineering cert you will need to obtain one (I didn't need one)

4/ Take your vehicle to obtain a blue slip ($63) along with form 1246 (examiner fills out section on pg3) and eng cert if you need one.

5/ Fill out form 1835 and send/email it to you car club.

6/ Form 1835 will need to then be sent to the ACMC for approval, cost is $25 which I paid to SDC who then forwarded the form on my behalf.

7/ Call the RMS to get in contact with your local center to ask if they have conditional plates available (white plate, green writing ending with D)
8/ Print and fill out for 1021, now I didnt need it but take it with you in case.
http://www.rms.nsw.g...-of-records.pdf
9/ Take all the forms, blue slip, old rego form and your old plates if the car is registered into the RMS

10/ They will give you a form to cancel your rego if the vehicle was registered
11/ From here on one of two things will happen: (cost $90)

a/ They would of done all this before and simply go ahead and complete your request

b/ They would of never done it before and call 3 different people over while you try explain it to everyone that this is a new system and these plates are now issued to not only tractors and trailers but classic cars also and to refer to the RMS website for details.

12/ Your issued with new plates, rego, Cert of operation and CTP
13/ Contact your insurer to update your policy to club plates (this saved me just over $200 with shannons!)
 

The whole process took a few weeks due to forms going back and forth, the RMS was a pain but it got done in the end and the only real disadvantage is the ugly large plates which I can live with considering the money I've saved (rego and CTP was going to cost me over 1k).

I think they did not require form 1021 because they listed the 60 day log book option in the Cert of Operation under "special conditions"
The log book is simply a piece of paper which asks you to list Date, Time, Location, Drivers name, Drivers signature.

Further help in completing the forms can be found here:

http://www.councilof...delines(V2).pdf

If you have further questions feel free to shoot.

 

Thanks

John


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:22 AM

... the only real disadvantage is the ugly large plates which I can live with...

 

Damn... I was hoping they would be the same size as 'Historic' plates.

 

John. Just become a senior citizen and the rego cost you nothing!



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 12:22 PM

Damn... I was hoping they would be the same size as 'Historic' plates.

 

John. Just become a senior citizen and the rego cost you nothing!

 

Me too...

That's the plan Peter, just 27 years to go..



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 12:25 PM

Damn... I was hoping they would be the same size as 'Historic' plates.

 

John. Just become a senior citizen and the rego cost you nothing!

 

Bloody boomers get everything cheap! Houses, classic cars (because they were new in the day), rego etc.. when will the party stop for you guys?

 

Signed: Disgruntled Gary.



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 12:46 PM

Hi

Are you saying that the classic scheme in NSW is now using conditional plates and not the smaller historics ?.
A mate put his Brockie on the NSW two weeks and they gave him the smaller historic plates.

Cheers

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