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#21 Scando

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Posted 06 August 2015 - 12:45 PM

The rules at the link below are the best I've seen for a class designed to get club cars into circuit racing
http://streetcarraci...ents/4582971895

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Posted 06 August 2015 - 01:55 PM

Thanks for those Street Racing rules Scando, basically similar to what I was thinking about.

Wonder what the procedure is to use them for racing in States outside WA?

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Posted 06 August 2015 - 02:29 PM

We can yell and scream at CAMS all we like.

The most effective way is to get enough real numbers and form your own category.

The QLDV8s and VICV8S are case in point.

http://www.vicv8s.com/about-us.html


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Posted 06 August 2015 - 05:13 PM

Speaking of CAMS http://www.speedcafe...in-cams-review/

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Posted 06 August 2015 - 08:12 PM

The most effective way is to get enough real numbers and form your own category.


Dead right, most event organisers at a state level will be happy to run any class that draws enough numbers.  The Sports GT class in Tassis started from tarmac rally competitors who wanted something to do with their cars for the rest of the year.

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 03:24 PM

have you had a look at the Sports Sedan rules Richard?

They run two types, basically the big boys who run to the edge of the rules with spaceframe chassis and open wheeler technology at the National level in the Kerrick series.

And then there is the backbone of the category at State level, basically what you have, backyard engineered hot rods using body shells and modified bits to go fast, basically running LS engines up to the 6 litre capacity limit.

If the 2 seater 280 is eligible, and i believe it is under recent changes, you have a good working base to play at state level in a CAMS category with the opportunity to run at pretty much any track in Australia.

Decoy, as we have discussed, yes your car will fit into 2B, it is too modified for 2F, but be prepared to be running in the middle to back of the of the pack unless you can crack a 58 or better at Lakeside, which is what the quick 2F MX5's go around in.

To be up near the front of the pack you need to be doing consistent 56's or better at lakeside.

As for making up your own category, there are many littered carcasses about from previous efforts, what racing really doesn't need is more categories.

The only two categories that have really had an impact on the racing scene in the last few years have been the excells and pulsars, both very cheap to buy into, very controlled regs, very close racing and the guys playing have a ball.

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 04:12 PM

The 280 should be ready to rumble soon, after a sprint or two to see if the nerve is still holding I'll decide what to do. Would rather risk a CLK or something than the 280 but I ain't getting any younger and building cars takes time.

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 04:22 PM

Richo, cage it, lgbook it, get yourself the current spec safety gear, and rip into it.
Your car IS a Sports Sedan, can't be anything else!

Dont worry about it being precious, you'll be running around rear f grid for the first few race meetings.
Getting your CAMS race lucence is now even easier with both online application, exam, and even circuit OLT online now!


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Posted 07 August 2015 - 05:09 PM

Decoy, as we have discussed, yes your car will fit into 2B, it is too modified for 2F, but be prepared to be running in the middle to back of the of the pack unless you can crack a 58 or better at Lakeside, which is what the quick 2F MX5's go around in.

To be up near the front of the pack you need to be doing consistent 56's or better at lakeside.



This sounded like it wouldnt be as fierce as 2B with the kamikaze MX5s haha.

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 05:34 PM

On the subject of MX5's there is a Lakeside incar video around from a couple of years ago of a Corvette shark moving through a bunch of MX5 sardines like a boss, corners and all. Lakeside is so much about balls and driver skill, it's a true test of the car/driver combination where lap times say it all.





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Posted 07 August 2015 - 05:51 PM


This sounded like it wouldnt be as fierce as 2B with the kamikaze MX5s haha.

You'd be looking at their tail lights as they dissappear into the distance,,,,

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 06:19 PM

Probably.

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 07:47 PM

The kamikazee MX5 are 2F cars, there is only a couple of 2B MX5's in Qld that regularly run in Prodsports, one turbo and one not. The turbo is a SP replica, and the good 2B MX5's are running around in 56-57's in the right hands.

To be up there in 2F you are looking at running around in 58's-59's and if Ash Lowe is running forget coming anything other than 2nd at best.

Richard, that Corvette is driven by Geoff Fane and has done a 55 around Lakeside. Geoff also races in the US in Transam, plus has the ex Palmer GT Viper that he plays in Prodsports with with Graham Lusty and his Moesler.

The 'vette has been built to 2B rules and is knobbled by the 6 litre capacity limit as per the year model he bought in. Geoff does like to "have a problem" with the car so he can have a play through the field if there is no one to race with. In doing this he is one of the best drivers I have raced with, giving the backmarkers room to race their race without having to prop. The guys he was passing knew he was there and gave the room as did Geoff.

Greg Quince also has a 2B spec vette, but is having a few little problems as he develops the car and there is a third 'vette in Qld, but it is closer in spec to GT3 than Prod Sports so is a bit quicker again.

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 02:31 AM

It is quite pleasantly surprising how tight a bunch f nice guts the Qld Prod Sports mb are!
You could quite easily run with them for a year or two, up here, get the "feel" of things, under both CAMS and AASA, before venturing South.
Plenty f fun to be had!

There wouod easily be a half dozen regular zccq Morgan Park regulars that could very easily step up to the next level.
Jon Siddens did it for a few years, ( albeit to keep a particular level f CAMS licence in date) he had fun, running around behind them all!



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Posted 08 August 2015 - 09:35 AM

My idea centres around a LSx engined Chrysler Crossfire or Mercedes CLK C208 coupe, the latter can be bought for a few K and is the pre Mac strut lighter CLK model. It, like the Crossfire which was derived from the same platform, has multilink rear and double wishbone front suspension. Of course any of the usual Nissan culprits would do too but I like the development part and wasting money :)

S30's are just too expensive now to mod in my opinion, another 280ZX shorty would probably cost $50K all up or more for what I have in mind. For a Sports Sedan a minimum 50mm vertical height difference between the main cage hoop and the driver's helmet is required which knocks out S30's and probably my 280ZX too, Crossfire for sure, the CLK C208 maybe?




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