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#1 George

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 08:27 PM

Has anybody tried any of their kits? Curious about the quality.

This is the complete kit - http://www.ebay.com....uhb=1#vi-ilComp

They sell them as individual kits as well.

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 09:07 PM

Ooooooh i was thinking of getting one of these. I think Lurch knew about them...

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 10:07 PM

Hi guys,

I had a bit of a discussion about this in an earlier thread here.

http://www.viczcar.c...ic,13734.0.html

Electrolysis and galling have been raised as issues, although there seem to be a few sellers of these kits out there now, so maybe not as big a problem as I had thought. Will be interesting to see how easily stainless fasteners come out in 30+ years time. If your car is garaged perhaps originals may be better?

Stainless into the alloy parts of the engine probably is not too good electrolysis wise.

Thoughts?

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 08:57 PM

Galling is only a problem with stainless going on stainless; unless you mix grades like 304 with 316 or if you can't, there are pastes that can be applied that can prevent it. I'd be going for just the original zinc plated as it has lasted this long, it would last for another 30+ years. Plus, stainless in metric fine for the M8 and M10 sizes might be a tad pricey.

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 09:45 PM

Can you get this kit in Gal? I'm pretty sure Lurch knew of someone that purchased one...

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 09:57 PM

IIRC Mossy got a whole kit in Zinc/Mild Steel from MSA...

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 10:31 PM

If anyone has the link to the MSA kit please post it here? Their site map is pretty useless.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 02:23 PM

What about this kit?

http://www.ebay.com....=item258933d598

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 03:07 PM

I've got quite a bit of my kit left over, $100 posted if your interested George.



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 03:33 PM

What about this kit?

http://www.ebay.com....=item258933d598



I like the look of that kit (quite period correct) heads of bolts etc are the correct size too. With most of the "Champion" brand stuff the bolt heads are the wrong size.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 04:05 PM

If anyone has the link to the MSA kit please post it here? Their site map is pretty useless.


Seems they don't list it any more, Gav...?

FWIW most bolts specific to early Zeds are still available new from Nissan, and they are not horribly expensive either.

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Posted 03 May 2015 - 09:41 PM

i've noticed that zcardepot have one in stainless
https://www.zcardepo...egory&path=7_44
and zcar depot only chrome allen sets
http://www.thezstore...ZS/PROD/14-1005
does anyone know of a full set ( 1200 item?) in stndard zinc/cad?
i have crawled all over the net, and have found nothing, although i found (thru the forum) a couple of local supplier of standard size bolts, but I wonder if anyone has compiled a list?
thanks



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Posted 04 May 2015 - 11:32 AM

Too hard basket. I bought one of the local supplied standard size bolt kits which are geared towards metric Japanese cars.

I fully expect sourcing fasteners to be one of the hardest things about a resto. :P
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Posted 04 May 2015 - 11:40 AM

I'm saving OEM bolts where possibly and will re-zinc / yellow chromate them. If I snap them or they are rusted too far etc.. I'll try and source more from a wreckers or similar. You can sometimes find them on eBay but at crazy prices for OEM ones.

I really wish there was an entire S30z fastener kit.... that would save a lot of hassle.

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 01:17 PM

FWIW - Years ago I went to my local wreckers, an old style wrecking yard and got a bucket full of bolts, nuts etc. He had a 44 full them.
They all needed a clean and some were stuffed but I ended up a good selection of automotive nuts & bolts for I think $20
That collection is still serving me well to this day.

Just a thought



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Posted 05 May 2015 - 06:30 AM

thanks everyone
did anyone get a DIY plating kit as part of the process?

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 07:18 AM

A large amount of bolts to suit the Zed are still available from Nissan.

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 09:07 AM

thanks everyone
did anyone get a DIY plating kit as part of the process?


I briefly researched this. You might save a few dollars but the time and space investment will offset that and then some. You're also handling toxic chemicals which is never fun and unfortunately the results are average at best from what I've seen compared to what a professional plater can do for you. There's also the problem of large parts which require large baths...

If you were to persist you might be able to reach a stage where you're outputting consistent quality results but the amount of parts you'd need plated for a single car restoration is not enough to achieve this. If you anticipate plating other items, helping out friends and possibly doing more restorations yourself in the future, you can probably justify the time.


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 09:18 AM

+1 to what George said, another member here warned me against DIY plating kits saying he'd done it and it simply wasn't worth the hassle. For the cost of outsourcing it makes much more sense to take it to a professional. My own concern is trying not to get all the bolts and fasteners mixed up.

I'll see if I can find the post where someone basically said don't bother unless you really want to learn etc..

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 10:18 PM

thanks guys for all the assistance
its more about the mix ups and the fact that most of the bolts are corroded, so not worth plating, so i wld feel like a knob taking 10 bolts to be plated.
i may try one of the bolt places recommended in the threads. from what i can tell ther are definitely "top 5" standard sizes that will probably cover at least 50% of the sizes
it just would be awesome if there's some pedantic, uber-detail guy that has created a full and defintive list
can anyone recommend a plater in melb?




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