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#21 gav240z

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 09:38 AM

Yes I've seen some new Porsche's and Audi's with this feature.

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:40 AM

I didn't see any then all of a sudden I've seen 2 auctions recently for these.

http://page11.auctio...6951#enlargeimg
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However I think this is the S31 (a.k.a 260z/280z console type switch) the earlier S30z style seems to be more narrow to fit in the location shown in Alan's reference photo.

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 04:23 PM

That one looks the part style-wise but might have to slightly enlarge the console opening.
However the plug will be different.
Don't think it would be a plug'n'play would it? Other bits req'd as Alan alluded to.
But it would be nice to fill in those cheap and nasty looking blanks in our consoles.

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 04:50 PM

I'm a simple pleb with simple needs, all I want in my AU delivered 240z is working hazard functions. Yes I know there is a thread on here.. :) But why wasn't this a requirement in 1970 I don't know?

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 08:32 PM

I didn't see any then all of a sudden I've seen 2 auctions recently for these.

http://page11.auctio...6951#enlargeimg
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However I think this is the S31 (a.k.a 260z/280z console type switch) the earlier S30z style seems to be more narrow to fit in the location shown in Alan's reference photo.

Must be. Looks exactly the same as in my '76

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 02:53 PM

Well that would be the 260z version, so has a different plug to the 240.

FWIW the 260 fog or driving light switch I have is the same size overall but with a single switch centred.

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 07:15 PM

Well that would be the 260z version, so has a different plug to the 240.


Not having a go at you personally ( ;) ), but I think the above is a perfect example of why we have so much confusion about these cars and the different market variants / sub-variants. We should try to understand such parts primarily by their application and production date, and not try to equate them to terms like '240Z', '260Z' etc which are in fact not market / model specific and are therefore so complicated as to be almost meaningless. 

If we can only view the entire the whole S30-series Z range in all its diverse glory through the oversimplified prism of '240Z/260Z/280Z', then we are all f*cked.

A few weeks ago I joined the (so-called) '240Z 260Z 280Z lovers' Facebook group specifically to try to straighten out some confusion and misinformation about Japanese market models. Turns out the average IQ level on the group is roughly the same as that of a donkey. Actually I quite like donkeys, but a lot of these people are about as likeable as anthrax, so maybe donkeys are not a very good analogy. I think it's a perfect example of a group of people who are - seemingly - enthusiastic about something, but individually seem to know almost nothing about them except what they have in front of their faces, and are almost proud of their ignorance. It's just bizarre.

I can't imagine this happens in quite the same way with other car marques and models? For example, lovers of old Porsches and ALFAs generally seem to know what's what, and as far as I am aware have a pretty balanced understanding that they've got German and Italian cars and - therefore - the whole story about them doesn't centre solely around what the sunnier parts of the USA got sent...


We're doomed, I tell you... doomed.

 

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 09:30 PM

We're doomed, I tell you... doomed.

Why? What are you on your soapbox for?
I suspect many people couldn't give a hoot as to whether their car is a HS30-??? or RS30 or GRSL or whatever detailed Nissan model drilled down to the exact designation might be. It doesn't mean they're stupid, or donkeys, or are battling anthrax. To suggest that is just rude & arrogant. They would have little if any contact with Japan, yet love their Zeds, & are faced with keeping 40-45 yr old cars on the road, or doing total rebuilds in many cases, with a limited amount of parts availability. Not easy. They communicate about their cars calling them Datsun 240Zs or 260Zs or 280Zs or 'Fairladys' or whatever they are badged as & historical general knowledge knows them as. It's also what the general parts suppliers refer to them as.
Your in-depth knowledge of the various Z car designations is very commendable, no question, but not as relevant for day-to-day Z ownership for most of us as you seem to think. As a NZ-new-RS30 owner for 30yrs, relocated to Australia, yes I'm interested in the myriad of Z car variations to some degree but only to a point. There is an interesting mix of Z cars from all over the planet here, not just Australia-new, all differing in some respects. But I've got other things to think about that are far more pressing.
Back on topic:
The OP just wants to find a particular switch & simply plug it into his loom which he says is otherwise ready. He's asked the forum for help. It's looking like he needs one from a Japan-new car as 'ours' - or other places - didn't get them. I was merely pointing out that the wiring looms of 240s & 260s - as we know them without getting all complicated & hung up on factory designations & production dates - basically use different plug styles. And the used originally Japan-new cars "Fairladys" & "Fairlady 240Zs" that have turned up downunder that I've seen could have either style. So to take care not to pay out a squillion $$$ for the wrong one, like the "260" example tabled by a helpful contributor, where the image doesn't show the plug.

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Posted 29 June 2015 - 09:40 PM

Hope you won these?
http://auctions.yaho...tion/w121816926

I am kicking myself for not bidding. Another set went for over $100 AU

Those were a bargain price...

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Posted 30 June 2015 - 06:55 PM

Price translation?
So what are postage costs like from Japan to here?

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Posted 30 June 2015 - 11:15 PM

Price translation?
So what are postage costs like from Japan to here?


Usually 10:1 ratio between JPY and AUD.

Or you can use Dr Google.

For example type the query "30,000 jpy vs AUD" into Google.
https://www.google.c...,000 jpy vs AUD

That auction went for about $37 AUD + shipping (cheap) and broker fee's (if you need to use 1). All up I'd guess it would cost you about $80-$100 landed.




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