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Links didn't work but am interested since I plan on putting some power steering in my car after this summer.

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I have bid a few times from different seller in Japan using a proxy service there a many around - or if you know someone living in Japan.

 

Anyway I spotted a few of these some months ago - keep getting out bid all the time - they are going for around $1000 AUD at the end of the Auction - I think I have see 8 get sold so far. I have an Electric power steering unit in the UK that I need to ship back to NZ so I can have a go at making one my self the trick from the research I have down is getting the correct wheel speed sensor to tell the ECU you are moving fast enough and that power assist is not longer required.

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Damn I have tried a few different variations and still can't get the site up. Any chance of someone posting on here direct?

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Thanks for trying Lurch but no cigar at my end. Must be our set up at this end. Never mind. Cheers

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a grand is pretty steep...

 

...but after just getting my z back on the road after 6 months absence due to my laziness, i've become a big girl used to the ease of throwing around cars with power steering, hahah.

 

anyone have a clue as to how well these would work/any local sources?

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Thanks for the heads up on that site in Bayswater "Aegean" I might do some investigation on that one. I know these are pretty new inovation but it could be an easier instal as long as I could be convinsed on the speed sensitivity issue. Plus less taxing on the power which is always a goo thing. Would save a lot of mucking around with steering racks etc. I am also guessing not cheap. I will let you know what I find.

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i saw a random thread on hybridz where someone had adapted what looked to b a similiar idea power steering off some fairly recent jap only car, i can't seem to find it again...

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Hi guys,

 

I know - this is a VERY old thread, however my search found nothing new on the same 'electric steering" subject.

 

Looking into options to lighten up the steering on a Z.

 

My research has led me to all sorts of places, however the easiest conversion would appear to be electric. 

 

http://www.thezgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5977&sid=76cb57e9d45ab4d99d77ba7ce1330028

 

This particular post was interesting.  Is there some sort of "pre-fabricated" conversion kit that utilises an electric motor from a Barina/Corsa?  This under-dash style conversion appeals to me.

 

Does anyone have further info?  Apparently someone in Japan was selling these already made up for the Z, but my initial look into Yahoo.co.jp yielded nothing like that.

 

Curiouser and curiouser  :-\

 

and yes - I know that is not a real word...  :P

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This thread brings the words "Prius" "Fly by wire" "Cambus" to mind all of which spell some sort of drama at some stage of a modern cars life, stick to Ol'School, just my opinion dont take offense.

 

Cheers

 

john

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No offense taken. 

 

Look - in an ideal world - old skool power steering would be great.  That is if I had a garage and space to work in and get it all together.  I am tooled up, but since moving in with my GF - have nowhere to work (prob won't for some time either).  Going old skool is a pretty big job in anyone's book - definitely need working space.

 

So - a "bolt in" steering solution that might help me get the missus in the car without complaining certainly is attractive to me. 

 

Definitely like to give it a go anyway.

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hmmm I am very interested in this topic. I have the standard power steering rack in my white 280zx. But I don't have space to mount a pump on the V8. So I have been considering the electric option. This would allow me to mount it anywhere I can find space.

 

Stay clear of the GM products though. Apparently they are the first item to implode on the Corsers and Astras etc. Mazda run one as well (2s and 3s I think) so I would opt of one of these but they are around $600 just for the pump :(

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The electric power steering kits sold in Japan still require some fabrication to install. They also source the unit from a small Suzuki VAN...I forget the model...I will see if I can recall it...I will post when I remember :(

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do you know if they are electric from end to end or just an electric pump driving a hydraulic rack?

 

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No it is an electric column and it is from a Suzuki Wagon R - there I remembered. So no rack changes or pumps etc.

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Keen as to find suitable alternative.  Suzuki Wagon R?  The bits might be tricky to source here in Oz.

 

Ok.  So steer clear of GM altogether?  Damn.  I was thinking this would be the way to go seeing as Barina from 94+ apparently had a re-workable electric steering setup.

 

There has to be someone local who has given this a crack....hope so.

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Nice.

 

Also found this site....they already have one made up for the 240z.  Will suss out how much they charge for it.

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Also got this response from another mob.  They provide the ECU kit (which provides information to column for correct steering feedback) along with the electric steering column (they do Suzuki AND Corsa).  $250euro.

 

"Hi,

I'm afraid I do not do any fitting kits for cars. I can provide you with a

column & controller kit which consists of an opel corsa or suzuki wagon R

column, all pre-wired to my EPS controller and all wiring you need to do is

connect 2 wires to the battery and 1 wire to the ignition switch. I sell

these kits for 250 euro plus postage.

However, you would need to do the mechanical fitting yourself.

The only people I know who do the full fitting kits only do them for VW

campervans and Ford escort Mk2 cars.

For basic photos of the columns see the link below:

http://www.rallywiz.com/Column_ECU_photos.htm

Regards,

Don Giles.

www.rallywiz.com"

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My understanding is that this sort of set up is only for very light vehicles. Zeds have heavy steering as we all know so I don't reckon you will find anything that will do the job properly. Subi rack all the way. :D

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I understand where you are coming from, however it appears that a few Zeds have this electronic kit.  That subi conversion look like a right pain in the "you know what" of a job.  Lot's of machining and work to get it all happening.  Not to mention crossmember modification I am not real keen ok.

 

http://www.unisteer.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=UNISTEER&Product_Code=8051500&Category_Code=PERFELECTRASTEER

 

I checked the manual for this particular product and it is rated for cars up to 1200kg.  The Zed 2+2 is a little under that weight I believe.  Considering it is a USA product made for hotrods - which I am assuming have larger block heavy style engines hanging out front, you would think it would be designed to handle heavy steering load yeah?

 

More research I reckon.....that guys on hybrid Z seems to have his fitted and works well....

 

 

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