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#1 JDM_240z

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 12:05 AM

Hey guys,

Just wanting peoples experience with full rubber kits for the zeds. I'm mid way through a resto and about to the get body back from paint. All the windows are out and I need a rubber seal kit.

My question to you, which branded kit is best? I've tried finding reviews and found some about a couple of products but a lot of reviews go off on tangents. What are peoples experience with these kits? I'm looking at the one from thezstore, I'm not out for the cheapest option I want quality that will actually fit.

Let me know you thoughts,

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 05:46 AM

I've got the weather seal kits from thezstore/MSA and the windscreen seals specifically are a pretty poor fit, gaps around the corners and leaks water in the rain. Could be a conbination of shit seals and installation but with the gaps, I wouldn't use them again.

Rear hatch windscreen are a bit better than fronts in terms of fitment.

Chrome trim fit on both, the rubber 'hugs'/goes over them too much.

My 2c :)

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 11:14 AM

In my opinion the best rubber kits seem to always be OEM. I know this isn't a 240z, but for my FD RX-7 I went aftermarket - although I originally told the bodyshop I wanted OEM they said the aftermarket ones were fine, but I was pretty disappointed with the aftermarket fitment.

So unless there is a substantial price difference, for me I'd go OEM.

I seem to recall a thread a while back re: someone being happy with aftermarket units, but I can't recall which build thread it was.

*Edit here it is*
http://www.viczcar.c....html#msg138099

Installed the 'precision' brand (green bag) right door aperture seal today and can say, that this is a seriously well engineered item, and infinitely better than the other ones out there. Rubber is supple, very very well engineered and a 100% perfect and neat fit. I used OEM for the windows but can say this precision stuff is seriously impressive and worth whatever they are charging for it.



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 02:03 PM

When I bought my 240z not too long ago the PO provided a black dragon kit not fitted. I found the door seals to be too thick. I trimmed the driver side rubber to see if I could get a good fit but ended up instead following some advice found on here and on hybridz that seals from a Kia Sportage do a good job. They did - fit great, seal well, and provide a firm shut for the door.

I haven't tried to replace other rubber around the car just yet but from a few hours spent on forums researching the issues I was having, it sounds like the OEM rubber provides the best complete car kit.

There was another company in the US called vintage rubber that came with good feedback http://www.vintagerubber.com/240z.aspx and I am sure you can do your own research on them.

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 06:57 PM

Thanks for the information guys, its much appreciated.

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:01 PM

so, sort of hijacking, sort of relevant.

My front windscreen seal seems to have gaps at the top corners, other than that it looks and fits as a very nice seal.
IIRC i bought the seal off a forum member here, I 'think' it might have been a Black dragon item? If not, it was from MSA when i bought some other stuff...
As far as i can tell, the windscreen should be pushed up from the base (maybe something spacing it up under the rubber?)
Or the screen is too small around the top corners?
Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
I got the screen replaced shortly after i bought the car so it'd pass rego, as far as i know it was a brand new reproduction that was fitted.
Im wondering if i need a new windscreen?
It doesnt leak, but only because the new rubber is nice and soft, but give it some years and a bit of sun and it'll fix that...
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Posted 17 October 2013 - 07:43 AM

Alan
my screen is the same LH top corner had quite a big gap my seal is from rare spares, the windscreen fitter injected something like black silicone into the corner shaped and smoothed it off, it set hard and is barely noticeable,


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:30 PM

I've got a full weatherstrip kit from Ebay usa for $299 from the a seller called Datsunlandsocal. I've test fitted most of the seals and they fit well..a little bit thick in some areas but i guess they will compress over time. Also the 2 other guys who use the same seals on their Z's that ordered the same time as i did have no complaints and that's after using and removing seals purchased from MSA.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 12:33 AM

Rarespares rubbers are good. Use non setting type special black screen sealant liberally then wipe off the excess with Kero. Always fit your moulds first on a flat table or you will tear the delicate lip edges trying to get them in later. Corners can be fitted very very carefully later.
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Posted 19 October 2013 - 10:34 PM

I have just recently fitted the MSA kit. I will be at the Perth Z day tomorrow afternoon, you can have a look first hand.

Cheers Billy.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 12:15 AM

I was going to start putting my car together as I got it back today but I think I'll have to come have a look

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 04:49 PM

My 2c,

Since I bought my car over 2 years ago I changed the weatherstripping from the 40 year old crusty ones to Scotts Old Auto Rubber to MSA/Black Dragon/Precision kit to Sportage seal. The old OEM ones were great until it rained and then did nothing, the Scotts ones were OK but no corner welting meant they didn't fit well in the top corner of the door and the Precision ones were just way too fat and destroyed my passenger side door hinge bushes and door latch from the huge forces they place on the door.

Sportage ones are definitely the G-O for me.

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:26 PM

Does anyone know if the Kia seals work on the rear hatch also?

*Edit read here:
http://www.viczcar.c...irmtment-issue/

See also:
http://www.viczcar.c...-issue/?p=90486

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 05:01 PM

Kia Part No.s 0K018-59760B and 0K018-58760B
http://forums.hybrid...ative/?p=815374

Alternatively it seems that this also works well:
Part number 1120A33 from McMaster-Carr
http://forums.hybrid...ative/?p=845390

Rear hatch fitment.
http://www.classiczc...&comment=315088
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 05:04 PM

Just go to Clarke rubber and buy ones off the roll for around $15 a metre. After messing with 2 brands of weatherstripping kits that didnt work, thats what i did and works perfect for doors and hatch.

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 05:39 PM

+1 for Clarke Rubber. Big variety of sizes/profiles. Although it may not meet your concours standards Gav!

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 04:17 PM

Just go to Clarke rubber and buy ones off the roll for around $15 a metre. After messing with 2 brands of weatherstripping kits that didnt work, thats what i did and works perfect for doors and hatch.

 

Hey Retro Z do you remember the sizing you got?



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Posted 26 February 2017 - 03:19 PM

Those Kia weather strips have got a good rap judging by the links Gav provided above.

 

So my question is:

I need to do both doors and the hatch seal, so do I need 3 of the Kia weather strip kits?

 

Will go to Clarke rubber for the top outer hatch seal(smaller one)



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 10:37 AM

Rang Kia today for the Sportage weatherstrip and those part numbers supplied above don't work for some reason.

Even tried Kia's online parts locator with no luck.
https://www.kiaparts...h&siteid=216393

Can anyone provide any more info please.

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 11:50 AM

Just got back from Essendon Kia and they managed to find the part numbers listed above.

According to the parts guy, there is no stock in the country(not a popular item) and so would have to be ordered from Korea.
Price for weatherstrip is $172 retail.
Not that cheap really!




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