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#21 Fairlady Z

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:06 PM

Hahaha well dad is a full mechanic and has a Croatian background, does that count? Im sure he might no a spray painter a and possibly a panel beater haha
I was considering buying some old falcon or something but i would like to have a car that i love to drive around in, i think that would be awesome!

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Well than and you qualify croatian/serbian/bosnians are worse than greek and italian. They give everything to their kids deserving or not. Hehe

Than dive into a z two seater but may have to lift ur price a bit for a regod one. I just sold a project car 240z close to that money

2+2 do pop up and as a first car the tiny rear seats will
Come in handy. Just ask some of the old farts here that had them
In the 70s hahaha

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:16 PM

Well than and you qualify croatian/serbian/bosnians are worse than greek and italian. They give everything to their kids deserving or not. Hehe

Than dive into a z two seater but may have to lift ur price a bit for a regod one. I just sold a project car 240z close to that money

2+2 do pop up and as a first car the tiny rear seats will
Come in handy. Just ask some of the old farts here that had them
In the 70s hahaha


hahahaha, I don't think they are that generous, but ill see how i go. I defiantly know i wont be getting one that will cost around $7000 or higher.
Also if i were to get one in auto, is it worth doing a manual conversion or should i just wait to one comes up in manual?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:51 PM

If you find a really good car that ticks all the right boxes including cost except that it's an auto, & still no manual car in sight that's any good, then buy it & do the manual conversion when you're ready, have the money & have collected the necessary parts. It's not that expensive using mostly second-hand parts. Others on this site will be able to give you a guide as to how much it would cost to convert, mostly free labour presumably using your dad to help.

#24 Fairlady Z

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 07:39 PM

Like Gilltech said auto no biggie.
Hardest thing is finding the manual pedals. The rest is easy thanks to huge variety of old nissans used L series engines. 280zx box or 6cyl skyline. U can even put rb20 or sr20 gbox with help of l series bellhousing. So l box could be blown u just need bellhousing. The rest of stuff is relatively easy , flywheel, clutch, master and slave cylinders. Possible tailshaft as well but not certain.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 11:25 AM

To be honest, for $7,000 you will get a car that looks/drives shite. Best advice is work hard, make some sacrifices in other areas of your life, save up, and buy a better one, will save you money in the long run and give you more satisfaction. The 240z/260z is a beautiful car but looks like junk if you don't look after it.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:44 PM

Bear in mind if you are skilled at rust repairs, don't mind a challenge and have the time you can buy a basket case and repair. I have never gone over 250 Hours on a body resto but for someone professional to do it for you at $75 to $95 an hour you can be way out of budget. Unless stored in the right enviroment any unrestored Zed can have rust just doing it's thing on the unprotected side of a panel.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:35 PM

Do many 240z or 260z come up cheap that are road worthy/registered?

NO......

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:45 PM

i bought my 73 240Z in 1987. At that time, they were still pretty hard to find. Obviously there were more than now, but they were never common. This was before the internet, and the trading post or classifieds in the Age is where you found them. I looked at quite a few 2 seaters back then, and many had rust in those days when they were just 14 or so years old.

I paid $3,700 for mine in 1987, and it needed rust repairs then (fuel tank filler, battery area of firewall and rear hatch striker panel). Fortunately it did not need dogleg work...that was all good. At that time, I was an apprentice mechanic and I earned $113/week less tax. So, that was a LOT of money back then for a first car, but I spent it to get what i wanted.

25 years have passed since then. You cannot expect to get an even half alright 2 seater for 7-8k unless someone very naive is selling it. If you can find a cheap 2 seater, you will spend a motza on panel repairs if you want to do them properly, unless you're a good panel man, in which case you better have plenty of free weekends available to you.

My advice as an older fart who has done this a time or two: Save for longer, and spend what you need to spend to get the best body you can find....the mechanical work is relatively straight forward compared with the body work. PAY THE $$ TO GET A CAR WITH A GOOD BODY IF AT ALL HUMANLY POSSIBLE!


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:54 PM

A wild datsun 260z 2+2 appears on the native gum tree website hahahah.

http://www.gumtree.c...oupe/1016652184

i bought my 73 240Z in 1987. At that time, they were still pretty hard to find. Obviously there were more than now, but they were never common. This was before the internet, and the trading post or classifieds in the Age is where you found them. I looked at quite a few 2 seaters back then, and many had rust in those days when they were just 14 or so years old.

I paid $3,700 for mine in 1987, and it needed rust repairs then (fuel tank filler, battery area of firewall and rear hatch striker panel). Fortunately it did not need dogleg work...that was all good. At that time, I was an apprentice mechanic and I earned $113/week less tax. So, that was a LOT of money back then for a first car, but I spent it to get what i wanted.

25 years have passed since then. You cannot expect to get an even half alright 2 seater for 7-8k unless someone very naive is selling it. If you can find a cheap 2 seater, you will spend a motza on panel repairs if you want to do them properly, unless you're a good panel man, in which case you better have plenty of free weekends available to you.

My advice as an older fart who has done this a time or two: Save for longer, and spend what you need to spend to get the best body you can find....the mechanical work is relatively straight forward compared with the body work. PAY THE $$ TO GET A CAR WITH A GOOD BODY IF AT ALL HUMANLY POSSIBLE!


Jamo


Bear in mind if you are skilled at rust repairs, don't mind a challenge and have the time you can buy a basket case and repair. I have never gone over 250 Hours on a body resto but for someone professional to do it for you at $75 to $95 an hour you can be way out of budget. Unless stored in the right enviroment any unrestored Zed can have rust just doing it's thing on the unprotected side of a panel.



To be honest, for $7,000 you will get a car that looks/drives shivere. Best advice is work hard, make some sacrifices in other areas of your life, save up, and buy a better one, will save you money in the long run and give you more satisfaction. The 240z/260z is a beautiful car but looks like junk if you don't look after it.


Well ill try and save up but my patience will overcome me hahah, but personally it dosent bother me that there is a little bit of rust or something like that because that way i will never get bored of the car and it will also give me something to do and i can also learn from it. As much as i would a like a really perfect datsun 240z or 260z i will be to scared to drive it and take it places and be worried all the time were as if i have a car that is in a work and progress it wouldn't really bother me unless the car look like trash hahah, well that's my point of view :)

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 07:08 AM

Very well....can't put an old head on young shoulders....we should have this discussion again when you are 40!

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 07:19 AM

Very well Cooper, I don't think anyone would have talked me out of buying an S30Z as my first car either. However that 1 you posted on Gumtree looks like it might be hiding a bit of rust. So be careful.

My advice buy the 1 with the least amount of rust possible. As stated, it will save you grief. If you're willing to learn a Zcar is a great place to hone automotive skills and you can't mess too much up :).

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 07:24 AM

Unlike what one of the above posters said I would bet you can easily find a "mechanically A1" 2+2 for less than $7k. Mine goes hard and has plenty spent on the drivetrain and making the engine bay look presentable and I would no doubt consider selling mine for this much. It doesn't look like a dog but for me personally the money needed for sorting any rust and paint is better done by someone else who has the money or time, rather than by myself who does not and does not want to do a half arse job and then fob it off to some poor soul who wouldn't know any better like many are on Carsales, etc.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:00 AM

The OP was asking whether many roadworthy & registered Zeds can be had cheaply with a budget of 5K.
The consensus & advice from numerous experienced Z owners / enthusiasts / restorers - who would be best placed to know - is that, sorry, that budget figure is just too low. In the case of a 2-seater far too low; for a 2+2 not so far out of the ballpark.
Therefore a different approach with respect to budget or immediacy of use needs to be taken in order to obtain one.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:37 PM

Very well....can't put an old head on young shoulders....we should have this discussion again when you are 40!

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Unlike what one of the above posters said I would bet you can easily find a "mechanically A1" 2+2 for less than $7k. Mine goes hard and has plenty spent on the drivetrain and making the engine bay look presentable and I would no doubt consider selling mine for this much. It doesn't look like a dog but for me personally the money needed for sorting any rust and paint is better done by someone else who has the money or time, rather than by myself who does not and does not want to do a half arse job and then fob it off to some poor soul who wouldn't know any better like many are on Carsales, etc.


Very well Cooper, I don't think anyone would have talked me out of buying an S30Z as my first car either. However that 1 you posted on Gumtree looks like it might be hiding a bit of rust. So be careful.

My advice buy the 1 with the least amount of rust possible. As stated, it will save you grief. If you're willing to learn a Zcar is a great place to hone automotive skills and you can't mess too much up :).


The OP was asking whether many roadworthy & registered Zeds can be had cheaply with a budget of 5K.
The consensus & advice from numerous experienced Z owners / enthusiasts / restorers - who would be best placed to know - is that, sorry, that budget figure is just too low. In the case of a 2-seater far too low; for a 2+2 not so far out of the ballpark.
Therefore a different approach with respect to budget or immediacy of use needs to be taken in order to obtain one.


Ok well ill keep looking, and try and look out for cars with minimal rust, who knows my budget of 5k could go up, i will have to wait and see until my birthday hahah only 6 months to go :D
Hope to get 2+2 but if a 2 seater pops up that would be even better!      Does it really matter if it is registered? Is it hard to get a car registered? Im starting to think if really does matter if it isn't registered and just register it when it come time to drive it.


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 08:36 AM

To put things into some context, I bought a 5g 260z 2 seater as my first car...nearly 10 years ago, and in ways wish I'd bought a 10g one as a second car instead, as you get a lot more for your money the more you spend, and will save it in the long run. At the time I looked at a couple of 2-3g 2+2's and BOG is the word that comes to mind.

Sure it's fun to have a zed as a first car, but not only are they too nice to use as a daily as don't survive even a light knock very well, but I missed out on the most appropriate time to own a fully sick lowered bogan mobile, as I have a soft spot for VH SLE's...

But in all seriousness an mx5 or s13 is probably a wiser/safer choice for a fun, first, 'only car', as its nice to not be dependent on a car you want to play around with. If the car doesn't come with Rego or a RWC there's probably going to be a fair bit of work to get it up and running, so just depends if you're in a rush, as I never enjoy working on my car when there's a time limit involved.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 09:40 AM

Evan I still remember going with you to check out your 260z, in fairness you got a great car. I recall some door rust but man think about the fact that you paid 5K for a 260z 2 seater and structurally there was hardly anything to worry about. It was very original and you've got lots of use out of it.

Gone are the days when you can find a Z like that at that money though...The same kind of car now would be 16K I reakon.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:14 PM

To put things into some context, I bought a 5g 260z 2 seater as my first car...nearly 10 years ago, and in ways wish I'd bought a 10g one as a second car instead, as you get a lot more for your money the more you spend, and will save it in the long run. At the time I looked at a couple of 2-3g 2+2's and BOG is the word that comes to mind.

Sure it's fun to have a zed as a first car, but not only are they too nice to use as a daily as don't survive even a light knock very well, but I missed out on the most appropriate time to own a fully sick lowered bogan mobile, as I have a soft spot for VH SLE's...

But in all seriousness an mx5 or s13 is probably a wiser/safer choice for a fun, first, 'only car', as its nice to not be dependent on a car you want to play around with. If the car doesn't come with Rego or a RWC there's probably going to be a fair bit of work to get it up and running, so just depends if you're in a rush, as I never enjoy working on my car when there's a time limit involved.


Haha......bogan ! I still love my vh-sle's.....mine had the red velour which looked like a Vegas strip club.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 09:20 PM

Haha......bogan ! I still love my vh-sle's.....mine had the red velour which looked like a Vegas strip club.



Ahh, I still remember my VH SLE, two tone blue, had it back in about 95 I think  ;)

Also if  you find a 5k 240z with a rwc you've done extremely well.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:08 PM



Bozo bought a black 260z and someone sold a silver 240z both for less than 7k this year (both looked very clean). But they both had buyers within hours so you have to jump on it as soon as you see it, even if it's 1500km away.



What's this??? I buy one 2-seater Z car (my dream car btw) and everybody from the Datsun community somehow knows and refers to it even almost 12 months after purchasing...

I had to pay 1K for a RWC and another 1.1K to VicRoads.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:55 AM

What's this??? I buy one 2-seater Z car (my dream car btw) and everybody from the Datsun community somehow knows and refers to it even almost 12 months after purchasing...

I had to pay 1K for a RWC and another 1.1K to VicRoads.


What was the 1.1k to Vicroads for? Surely registration is not that much in Australia now is it?

You got very lucky so I think everyone is envious of your bargain. But after all the work you did on the 2+2 I think you deserved it to be honest.




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