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Cars For Sale / Re: Cars For Sale (3rd Party Sites) Ebay, Carsales etc..
« Last post by dat240z on May 23, 2013, 12:47:31 PM »Yeah its certainly had a bit of cash spent on it. I wonder how close to 38K he will get....
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Cars For Sale / Re: Cars For Sale (3rd Party Sites) Ebay, Carsales etc..
« Last post by Tonyger on May 23, 2013, 12:39:16 PM »A new one and this one looks real nice.
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/datsun-240z-1972-14939177?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=1&eapi=2&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294966615&find=240z%7cCarAll&silo=Stock&num=15&sort=default
Way out of my price range though.
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/datsun-240z-1972-14939177?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=1&eapi=2&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294966615&find=240z%7cCarAll&silo=Stock&num=15&sort=default
Way out of my price range though.
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Members Project(s) Journal / Re: Ledge's 240Z Track car
« Last post by sexual_sushi on May 23, 2013, 12:17:18 PM »Looking good Ledge, do you mind me asking how much the CV's set you back?
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General Discussions / Re: Ford to cease local production in 2016
« Last post by Agno on May 23, 2013, 11:48:39 AM »Exactly right PZG. I'm sick of hearing about people complaining about subsidies to automakers, especially when you compare them to the tax concessions and rebates given to the mining industry!
I used to have a fantastic powerpoint presentation from GM Holden from when I worked there that broke down Government investment/tariff barriers country by country and it made for some interesting reading but unfortunately I don't think I have it in soft copy anymore. It's already been said but Australia has the LEAST protected automotive industry out of all of the countries in the world that make automobiles. If you want a high tech and high value industry like auto manufacturing, it doesn't come free. Especially when we live on this big ol' island miles away from other global markets.
We the tax payers have been funding this industry via the government for years.Let's get the facts straight. Ford has been given $1.1 billion in total from Australian Governments since 2000 and in return invested over $3.3 billion. Then factor in business and sales taxes on components, wages and car sales and it's safe to say that Governments have gotten their money back.
It doesn't make sense to keep giving someone $10 so they can turn it into $11.
I used to have a fantastic powerpoint presentation from GM Holden from when I worked there that broke down Government investment/tariff barriers country by country and it made for some interesting reading but unfortunately I don't think I have it in soft copy anymore. It's already been said but Australia has the LEAST protected automotive industry out of all of the countries in the world that make automobiles. If you want a high tech and high value industry like auto manufacturing, it doesn't come free. Especially when we live on this big ol' island miles away from other global markets.
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Members Project(s) Journal / Re: Ledge's 240Z Track car
« Last post by zed74 on May 23, 2013, 11:31:28 AM »Nice parcel just came from Stewart Wilkins,
Unbreakable they tell me.
SWR mods the 300zx twin turbo ones I believe
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General Discussions / Re: Ford to cease local production in 2016
« Last post by PZG302 on May 23, 2013, 11:11:03 AM »Australia has one of the lowest taxpayer subsidies for the car industry in the world and we are also one of about 15 countries with an industry mature enough to produce a car from a clean sheet of paper to the final product.
It is a sad day for manufacturing in this country, we are becoming a second world country with the ongoing cuts to R&D and higher education over the last 30 years, manufacturing disappearing from our shores and the only thing that we do sell overseas is dirt that will run out one day leaving us where?
Whilst we as a country have embraced globalisation and the free market unfortunately it has been largely one way, even the free trade agreement with the US sees us screwed over, the FTA with Thailand is scary when looking at the car industry in isolation, 5% tariff, if that on cars manufactured in Thailand coming here and 50% tariff plus ridiculous local taxes on our cars going over there. The few territories that made it to Thailand were the equivalent of near double what we pay here.
There is more to play than just the government here, in Ford's case serious mismanagement from the US side of things and a very poor job of marketing has spelt the death nell for Ford. Holden may survive, and I hope they do to keep the industry alive here, but depending on the flow on effect for the suppliers this may be the thin edge of the wedge and we could see all production from Holden from Holden and Toyota move offshore in the next 10-15 years.
On the bright side, the new FG Turbo ute I'm about to order will be another investment for my retirement along with my charger.......
It is a sad day for manufacturing in this country, we are becoming a second world country with the ongoing cuts to R&D and higher education over the last 30 years, manufacturing disappearing from our shores and the only thing that we do sell overseas is dirt that will run out one day leaving us where?
Whilst we as a country have embraced globalisation and the free market unfortunately it has been largely one way, even the free trade agreement with the US sees us screwed over, the FTA with Thailand is scary when looking at the car industry in isolation, 5% tariff, if that on cars manufactured in Thailand coming here and 50% tariff plus ridiculous local taxes on our cars going over there. The few territories that made it to Thailand were the equivalent of near double what we pay here.
There is more to play than just the government here, in Ford's case serious mismanagement from the US side of things and a very poor job of marketing has spelt the death nell for Ford. Holden may survive, and I hope they do to keep the industry alive here, but depending on the flow on effect for the suppliers this may be the thin edge of the wedge and we could see all production from Holden from Holden and Toyota move offshore in the next 10-15 years.
On the bright side, the new FG Turbo ute I'm about to order will be another investment for my retirement along with my charger.......
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Members Project(s) Journal / Re: Ledge's 240Z Track car
« Last post by Ledge on May 23, 2013, 11:08:53 AM »Nice parcel just came from Stewart Wilkins,
Unbreakable they tell me.
Unbreakable they tell me.
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General Discussions / Re: Ford to cease local production in 2016
« Last post by RB30X on May 23, 2013, 10:44:01 AM »Sad yes, but its a sign of things to come.
We the tax payers have been funding this industry via the government for years.
It doesn't make sense to keep giving someone $10 so they can turn it into $11.
Australian car makers cannot make cars in Australia for the price they do it overseas.
Holden will be next. Currently offering 0% finance and overall prices 30% lower than previous years. This has already had a huge toll on the second hand market with 2010-2013 model Holdens or HSV's loosing 30-40% value in a matter of months.
We the tax payers have been funding this industry via the government for years.
It doesn't make sense to keep giving someone $10 so they can turn it into $11.
Australian car makers cannot make cars in Australia for the price they do it overseas.
Holden will be next. Currently offering 0% finance and overall prices 30% lower than previous years. This has already had a huge toll on the second hand market with 2010-2013 model Holdens or HSV's loosing 30-40% value in a matter of months.
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WA / Re: Fugu and Jinxed present "Rollercoaster Hills" cruise 15/6/2013
« Last post by Jinxed on May 23, 2013, 09:37:37 AM »final meet point will be at a great little spot that does wood fired pizzas, other food and specialty beers brewed on site......
ive been there before and the wood fired pizzas are pretty damn good!!!
ive been there before and the wood fired pizzas are pretty damn good!!!
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General Discussions / Ford to cease local production in 2016
« Last post by Agno on May 23, 2013, 09:30:50 AM »http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/ford-confirms-plant-closures-20130523-2k22c.html
Today is a very sad day for the automotive industry and enthusiasts alike.
Today is a very sad day for the automotive industry and enthusiasts alike.