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Re: What Ampage fuse for fuel pump wiring.
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2012, 06:49:52 PM »
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Re: What Ampage fuse for fuel pump wiring.
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2012, 05:45:33 PM »
 :-\  As the purpose of the fuse is to ensure that the wire being used does not overheat & burn out would it not seem reasonable to check the amount of amps the wire being used can carry given that there is only 13Volts to push the amps thru this wire. Then try three quarters of this figure for the fuse itself. You may be able to apply OHMs law theory if you can find out a bit more about the fuel pump itself.

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Re: What Ampage fuse for fuel pump wiring.
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2012, 06:33:30 PM »
Heya

Basic electrical theory is that Power (P) = Voltage (V) x Current (I)

=> P = VI

By example, if the power of the device you are running is known (eg 90/130W head lamps), then max total power is 130 x 2 (lamps) = 260W.

So, 260 = VI
=> 260 = 12V x I
So, I = 260/12 = 21.7 Amps

So, in the case of a high beam headlamp fuse, you would run a 25A fuse minimum. I use heavy gauge wire in my installation, and use 30A fusing, which works fine, and will protect the wiring from a short.

As one of the other contributors mentioned, the fuses are there to protect the wiring, NOT the device. Shorts are caused most frequently through short circuits (eg wiring abraided and shorts to earth) OR through a device failing (eg fuel pump short circuits, effectively conducting power through the pump with no resistance in circuit). In these cases, if the fuse does not blow, the wiring will heat up and potentially cause a fire and/or damage the wiring. By blowing, the fuse protects the wiring from this outcome...the device is already stuffed, hence the fuse is not there to protect it.

Bottom line: The fuse needs to be 'big' enough to sustain the maximum current draw of the device when under load (including start up current), but small enough to blow BEFORE the wiring gets hot and fails. Hence, you need to know the power requirement of the device, and the power/current capacity of your wiring to design your fusing.

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Re: What Ampage fuse for fuel pump wiring.
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2012, 08:23:12 AM »
 ;) Just to add a little more info, according to a wiring chart I looked up (AWG)    #6 wire gauge carries 37Amps                      / #8 24Amps /#10 15AMPS.

   * AWG: American wiring gauge.                                                             
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Re: What Ampage fuse for fuel pump wiring.
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2012, 11:56:13 AM »
;) Just to add a little more info, according to a wiring chart I looked up (AWG)    #6 wire gauge carries 37Amps                      / #8 24Amps /#10 15AMPS.

   * AWG: American wiring gauge.                                                             
                                                                          Regards: Alan.  :D

Over what length?

As the wire length gets longer, the resistance goes up, reducing potential current transfer.

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Re: What Ampage fuse for fuel pump wiring.
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2012, 06:03:01 PM »
 ;) These figures would be suffice to cover the max length used in most vehicles.It stands to reason that the longer the wire more volts are reqd to force the reqrd Amps thru.

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Re: What Ampage fuse for fuel pump wiring.
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2012, 06:25:26 PM »
;) These figures would be suffice to cover the max length used in most vehicles.It stands to reason that the longer the wire more volts are reqd to force the reqrd Amps thru.

                                                         Regards: Alan.  :D

That's not how electricity works though.

If there is too much resistance in the wire the current will go up, which causes the wire to heat up, which causes increased resistance, which causes the current to rise, which causes more heat.....

Including the wire length in the spec "max current capabilities" of wire gauge is very important. There are some wire lengths in vehicles that are only a few inches, while others are several feet long, which can change the required wire gauge drastically.

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Re: What Ampage fuse for fuel pump wiring.
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2012, 06:47:06 PM »
mate your car has a aftermarket loom autronic from memory and they have a 15a fuse for the fuel pump for a 044 style pump .but if you have a lift pump as well you should run a separate relay and fuse or you may have a problem

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Re: What Ampage fuse for fuel pump wiring.
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2012, 06:47:06 PM »