What year is this S1 240z? Also is it worth resurecting?

[RBZ 260]

hi guys instead of hogging the other post i thought i create a new one.
hoping the authentication/history gurus like MR. Camouflage, Lynton, hS30 etc.... and everyone else can help figure this out.

since my misfortune with the 260z and one zed gone to the graveyard i thought it may be worth while resurecting another one and not killing it for parts.

the car in question is #227
engine number: L24018162

the car is in original condition. no previous paint layers still on original layer. no accident repairs that i can see the body is in failry straight besides the usual trouble rust spots.

few interesting facts is that it has fender mirror holes but have been plugged with plastic caps look like nissan items. these caps are exact outline as the genuine fender mirrors in Japan as it can be seen in the pics.

has no ADR plate so i assume its pre 72 but would like to figure if its the 70 or 71.

it has all the usual s1 tell tales. like vented rear hatch and sealed rear 1/4. different inspection flaps, non reclining seats. non retractable belts. no tool box holes in the back.


if it is "special" i was thinking bringing this old girl back to original or as close as i can get to original without going banckrupt in the process.

i had a another look at it on the weekend to see if its repairable and if worth doing so.

besides the normal rust in both floors around roof and rear 1/4 area sill panels and rear slam panel and tailgate the rest is in not bad condition.

the doors are usable same as guards. front end has no rust whatsoever and chasis rails are straight and rust free.

it will take some work replacing the floors seals and roof skin but other than that seems to me its not a total goner.

i tried finding stamps but they all seem to have deteriated and not visible. i will try to remove the gauges and see if there is any visible stamps with codes for u guys to decode.

im hoping its something different and more special due to fender mirror holes/plugs. as i havent seen one like it.

here are some pics for now

[mrp69]

i would think that it would be a 70 model with that build number

my car is build #584 and my car is 3/71

peter

[zzzzed]

hmmm looks like there could be a lot of work under that roof skin but i would give it a crack.. If you dont want to restore it give it to me and i will 

[RB30X]

I think you already know the answer to your own question mate. You sounded down and out of the Zed game after the accident, but look who's tracking down Zeds already. It will need some dollars thrown at it but it seems very original and unmolested, especially if its a good price.

[dalee]

I had #37? many years ago with all the same early production parts you have mentioned.  I tracked its build date to approx 11/70.

#518 (still have) was built approx 2/71 based on my investigations.

I would like to see the car refreshed back to original condition, but that's just my preference, esp considering how original it is to start with.   

At the end of the day its your car and you can do what you want with it.

Dale

[RBZ 260]

wow quick replies guys.

well i em down and pissed off daily for not being in my z. but being out of the game no way  love my S30's
hence y i want to save this one to bring the numbers up again.
the price well i allready own it!
price i paid was $400.

Mick u right she needs bit of work but if i spend another 3k in materials to get the body rust free its still worth it.

Dalee if the car is getting resurected she be returned to original as close as possible.

got most parts allready but missing:
door trims
one door glass
bonnet
chrome strips on the roof
door chrome strips
door handles
center console
gearbox
speedo and tacho.
carby and air box
Cowl infront of windscreen.

most parts be easily bought besides S1 series console may be bit of a trouble.

as i got also the 2/72 #1860 which most probably will end up with the running gear from the 260z , zg flares and massive rims. and will get the same colour as the 260z had and will probably retian the rbz260 plates on it. dont think that plate deservs to die yet

this will be long project and will be inline after the mustang and the 72 240z. 

initaly was bought as parts car for 72 but with bit of work i think i could save this one.

bring it back to original what i think it deserves being the early car with matching number engine still in there.

besides the rust the panels are very straight. no body filler anywhere. just deteriated original paint.

[NZeder]

bargain of the purchase price - wish I could find a 240z as complete as that for a price like that here in NZ

all the parts you are looking for can be found if you keep looking some even NOS and even reproductions if you are happy with that too.

re the cowl just don't use a 260z part it is different not sure if the early 240z is different to he later 240z but someone else might know.

[dalee]

re the cowl just don't use a 260z part it is different not sure if the early 240z is different to he later 240z but someone else might know.
[/quote]

Learn something new every day.  Specifically, what are the differences! I had never noticed, but that could be because I have only ever had one 260.

[RBZ 260]

thanks nzeder. i didnt think the 260z will suit plus mine is bent a fair bit from the accident so need to get one regardless.

did some more research in determining the year.
went slightly different angle.

still got the original plates on the car which are RGV 100
the RAA 000 plates have been issued in 1966.  this makes it 722,100  (if i did my aplhabet right) registered car since 1966...

now how many cars they register per year is anyones guess. im going to try email the rego department if they know the date this plate has been registered.

hopefully we get the date that it got registered.

[Lurch]

Top Stuff Johnny!
That's a very fixable car BTW...

[Zedman240]

If you don't have a speedo, the early ones start at 20mph+ and they come up on ebay from time to time. Any early or really any 240Z is worth restoring.. at $400, it's worth while stripping to a bare shell and place it on a rotisserie. Re-paint/zinc components and you'll end up with a killer zed! If I had the cash and time, I'd find another zed to rebuild..

[chris240]

bargain !! well done..
as for the number plates as a measure of date, dont be fooled, as the plates may have been on another car before the zed, prior to the 1st owner buying the zed.. Owners just "kept" the same plates for years back in the 60's and 70's, not as common now I believe.

[Brabham]

Definately worth saving with numbers that early. Good to see you want to keep it original and good luck with it. 

[RBZ 260]

spent some time looking at wazregister.
 looking at numbers seems to be a second half 1970 car as some u guys sugested.

that is good enough for now till i get time to those gauges and check some stamps out.

in regards to colour.
does it devalue if it gets repainted in any other stock colour from that year.

ie: instead of mustard to be red or silver

or better leaving it in original colour?

not a big fan of the mustard colour.
though seen pics of clean ones and looks ok.

[KatoKid]

I'm facing the same dilemma, my car is originally mustard and I know they can look good if the body work and paint is pristine and I really want to preserve the value of the car.

I'm tempted to repaint in the original colour with the hope that everything old becomes new again IE fashionable. I think paint colours go through cycles and I believe we are on the cusp of these old colours coming back into favour.

Cross fingers anyway.