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Just wondered if anyone knew the answers to these outstanding questions  ;D

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- was the centre console armrest (coinbox) an option, as some I've seen are fitted with it and some not ?

- what were the factory options ?

- what were the dealer fitted options ?

thanks again  ;D

I was fortunate to have brought my first zed in '78, obviously a 260, but a 2+2 5 speed manual. Oddly, my current 260 is stock (with original carbs) & auto, I swear it goes better.
I brought it from Brad Boyden Datsun, Essendon opposite the Airport (no longer there), trading in my V6 Capri, got $2K for it and paid $12.5K for the zed.
Now this was dealer optioned as it had been smicked up for Brad Boyden!
Options included a front nudge bar, a blue metallic rear window insert (never seen another) which matched the body colour, padded arm rest over the coin tray & air con.  The seats where fully reclining, something that my current 260 doesn't do, so I'm not sure if they where a option or just came that way in the model year?
It was a sh*t to start hot...no surprises there! stupidly, I traded it on a RX7 and have missed it ever since.
A 260Z is actually a joy to drive over a 240Z, just something different about them on the road( I have both, so I can compare them)!
Personally, I wouldn't discount an auto, it's more likely not to be flogged in it's early life and could be converted. On the other hand you could join me in the more exclusive 260Z club of 2+2, original and auto....
Good luck hunting! :)
Mike
edit..forgot to add the sheepskin seat covers & mud flaps, not sure if the cassette player was factory or dealer.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2010, 08:44:22 AM by zedrally »
Bogged but not beaten........

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Actually the 260z's infamous 'Flat Top' Hitachi SUs are normally swapped with the 240z 'Round Top' Hitachi SUs, not British SUs. The Hitachi round tops look very similar to normal British SUs but if you had one of each type you would be able to see a number of small differences.

I can't help with your other questions except to say that my 75 260z 2 seater had no armrest, bonnet vents with no covers, and was an easy step to convert from auto to manual.

Good luck with the search!

Thanks for giving me your time and expanding on this - love reading details - all adds to my 260Z education  ;D

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Oh it is really good to see some genuine 2+2 interest on this forum. :P
I was around and 25 years old when 260Z's were brand new off the showroom floor and I purchased a manual 260Z coupe in 1975 after trading in my 1969 Datsun 2000 Sports.
260Z's came out late 1974 emissions free other than the carbon cannister under the bonnet.
The 2+2 came out standard with 5 speed manual or Auto, am/fm radio, hubcaps, steering wheel centre padded hub, no bonnet vents, vinyl covered transmission tunnel, open console, black armrests, $8550-00 on the road.
Early 1976 they upgraded the Zed, adding mag wheels, carpet over the transmission tunnel,  and in mid 1976 added pollution equipment to the engine, bonnet vents were introduced, air-conditioning and am/fm  search radio cassette were now an options pack, steering wheel had a smaller stylish horn hub, interior of the 2+2 now had color co-ordinated armrests and carpets and vinyls. The interior colors were beige/white, bronze/brown and black, the centre console with a lid was introduced.
 The 2+2 was an upmarket stylish coupe in its day driven mainly by executives and/or their wives. With patience it is possible to find the car of your dreams but it took me 7 years to find the right car I finally purchased in 1989.
Due to the age of these cars and their suitability or lack of suitability to a buyer it is likely the car will be modified for street friendly driving, this would include 240Z carbies, electronic ignition, new gas for air-conditioning and possibly replacement air-conditioning compressor, most Zeds would have had a repaint as the duco was not good for Oz sunshine, rust is an issue regardless, if you are local in Qld my car would be a decent car to view to get ideas of originality, I still have all the parts I have removed except exhaust. Dealer options fitted as extras were vinyl roof, chrome front nudge bar, perspex headlight covers, front and rear spoiler, lanbswool seat covers, mine has a cargo blind, mudflaps, pinstriping, towbar. I am the 2nd owner of my car. Lynton 8)

Excellent reply Lynton !!  Thank you !!

My pleasure to raise the profile :-)
Reading between the lines it would seem that the 2+2 is apparently considered the ugly cousin to the 2 seater Z cars. I genuinely didn't know that if indeed the case. I love the classic sports car shape - long bonnet short boot. Classic sports car. The fact that its a 4 seater is in my opinion even better.

Thank you for giving me your time, expanding on the 260Z differences.
Us younger folk  ;) love to read information like this from first hand knowledge - it is invaluable.

You're car is beautiful. Love the blue with white interior.
Love the fact that you're only the 2nd owner too and have resisted the urge to modify it from original - easy swap out mods are fine in my opinion as long as you retained the original parts as you state  ;)

I know what you're saying about it being unlikely to find a original car nowadays but believe it or not I've managed to do it with 3 times with the Mazda RX3 and it, in my opinion, was a car that had even more of a chance of being highly modded. Though to be fair I think there were a hell of allot more RX3's sold than 260Z 2+2 manuals.  When you say you took as long as you did to find an original back in the 80's then it isn't looking good for me some 20+ years later !!
Luckily I'm an optimist :-)

Do you know what happened to your brand new 1975 purchased 260Z?
Have you managed to track it down to buy back or is the one you have sufficient to satisfy you?
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I must admit I was a bit cheeky in my question 8). It's just that I own a 77' 260Z with factory 5 speed and a/c.
http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,4323.0.html
I hope you find the one you want because I enjoy mine every time I drive it. Even if the a/c dont work.

Yes I had a looksee at your car once I read your post and saw your signature.
Nice indeed - I think if I was to buy one back in the day it would have the white interior despite it showing the "dirt" quicker.
Just love the white.
The  photo with your kid laying on the skate board as a creeper was funny too :-)  Can totally relate.
Thanks for the wishes too :-)

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I was fortunate to have brought my first zed in '78, obviously a 260, but a 2+2 5 speed manual. Oddly, my current 260 is stock (with original carbs) & auto, I swear it goes better.
I brought it from Brad Boyden Datsun, Essendon opposite the Airport (no longer there), trading in my V6 Capri, got $2K for it and paid $12.5K for the zed.
Now this was dealer optioned as it had been smicked up for Brad Boyden!
Options included a front nudge bar, a blue metallic rear window insert (never seen another) which matched the body colour, padded arm rest over the coin tray & air con.  The seats where fully reclining, something that my current 260 doesn't do, so I'm not sure if they where a option or just came that way in the model year?
It was a sh*t to start hot...no surprises there! stupidly, I traded it on a RX7 and have missed it ever since.
A 260Z is actually a joy to drive over a 240Z, just something different about them on the road( I have both, so I can compare them)!
Personally, I wouldn't discount an auto, it's more likely not to be flogged in it's early life and could be converted. On the other hand you could join me in the more exclusive 260Z club of 2+2, original and auto....
Good luck hunting! :)
Mike
edit..forgot to add the sheepskin seat covers & mud flaps, not sure if the cassette player was factory or dealer.

You guys on this forum really are a great bunch.
Thanks for giving me your time and expanding on the options. Really appreciate it.

By the sounds you have a lovely car and all that I'm after except I'm just not a auto person. I bought a auto RX4 Sedan when I was 19yr before I knew better and subsequently swore never again. 20+yrs later I'm still put off buying one. No offence meant :-)

Sounds like you've always had sports cars in your blood. A V6 Capri is a rare car nowadays and I imagine it was back in the day. The '79 to '85 RX7 was a great car but then I'm bias as Rotary enthusiast, but definitely not suitable for 4 people.
Maybe I'll think the RX7 is just a great car after I drive a 260Z, with it being a fantastic car !
You know both, so maybe I'm yet to find out.
With the 240Z to 260Z drive comparison - would it likely be due to the yearly improvements in Monocoque design/construction from 1969 to 1979?

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Personally I don't think the 2+2 is the ugly cousin, it is all a matter of opinion really, the number of sales of the 260Z 2+2 in 76 & 77 speak for itself, compared to the 2 seater coupe! The 2+2 in numbers today have now in my opinion diminished very quickly but the cars were generally better looked after from a history point of view because of the type of buyer back in the mid 70's that could afford one. I have posted a photo of my 260z coupe in 75' but I have no idea where it is, even if it is still alive!! Your comments about my difficulty of buying a genuine manual zed based on the time it took me to buy is similar right now today. I have a stock standard Nissan 200sx S15 R-spec the same age as my 260Z when I sold it, 9 years later it is still immaculate and an unblemished vehicle but look at what you see on the roads mostly heavily modified cars many with panel damaged and only a few running around left stock standard. The zeds I looked at during the 80's were already rust infected, carpets torn up from heater leaks, duco heavily oxidised, seats ripped and dashboards cracked, mags without centre caps, consoles cracked, still a bit the same today really but the coupe I sold was mine from new and still like new I just didn't know how badly other cars had deteriorated when I sold it.
The other thing about the coupe is it was introduced after the Datsun 2000 sports and progressively put out of business the MGB, Jensen Healey, Triumph GT6 and TR6, Alpha Romeo Spider which were considered sports cars because of the thoroughbred 2 seater rag top being referred to as a real sports car, 240/260z were called tin tops not real sports cars until their racing debut helped them over the line to join the list of "sport cars" as with Porsche, Mustangs etc; Lynton 8)

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Reading this is like remembering a old flame....or discovering a lost one!
Forgot the headlight covers, they where trimmed with chrome, also the passenger foot rest or panic foot bar, depending on your driving ability. Old age is a curse, but with a little prompting, the memories flood back.

Glad to see that there are others that don't consider a 2+2 the ugly duckling of the family...
Bogged but not beaten........

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Personally I don't think the 2+2 is the ugly cousin, it is all a matter of opinion really, the number of sales of the 260Z 2+2 in 76 & 77 speak for itself, compared to the 2 seater coupe! The 2+2 in numbers today have now in my opinion diminished very quickly but the cars were generally better looked after from a history point of view because of the type of buyer back in the mid 70's that could afford one. I have posted a photo of my 260z coupe in 75' but I have no idea where it is, even if it is still alive!! Your comments about my difficulty of buying a genuine manual zed based on the time it took me to buy is similar right now today. I have a stock standard Nissan 200sx S15 R-spec the same age as my 260Z when I sold it, 9 years later it is still immaculate and an unblemished vehicle but look at what you see on the roads mostly heavily modified cars many with panel damaged and only a few running around left stock standard. The zeds I looked at during the 80's were already rust infected, carpets torn up from heater leaks, duco heavily oxidised, seats ripped and dashboards cracked, mags without centre caps, consoles cracked, still a bit the same today really but the coupe I sold was mine from new and still like new I just didn't know how badly other cars had deteriorated when I sold it.
The other thing about the coupe is it was introduced after the Datsun 2000 sports and progressively put out of business the MGB, Jensen Healey, Triumph GT6 and TR6, Alpha Romeo Spider which were considered sports cars because of the thoroughbred 2 seater rag top being referred to as a real sports car, 240/260z were called tin tops not real sports cars until their racing debut helped them over the line to join the list of "sport cars" as with Porsche, Mustangs etc; Lynton 8)

Sorry I didn't mean to tarnish the 260Z 2+2 with the ugly stick.
I suppose I just interpreted your comment "Oh it is really good to see some genuine 2+2 interest on this forum." in this way.
Yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder and this beholder loves the 260Z 2+2 shape !!

RE: the 7 years it took for you to find your one owner 260Z 2+2 in the 80's indicating how hard it was to find an original unmolested 260Z 2+2.
The 200SX R spec comparo is a great comparo to when you were searching in the 80's for your 260Z 2+2 if a person was searching today for a one owner 200SX R spec as indeed your description of modifying is accurate.
The 260Z 2+2 was not considered classic in the 80's and thus not respected to keep original likewise the 200SX.
If searching for an original 260Z 2+2 today I think if any have survived I'd expect (hope) that they wouldn't be modded like they would have been in the 80's/90's....... but then it's not unheard of that people mod original cars :(
Other things that are different when searching for a 260Z 2+2 today when compared to the 80's, is that today there is the internet. This really has opened the search parameters up big time for buyers.
You get to view and read about allot more cars than just having the local rag, newspaper, word of mouth or monthly "Trading Post".

In saying all this I do agree that the odds are against me of finding the car you found in '89 - that is an original owner 260Z 2+2 5sp but if I do I'll be buying it immediately as I'm sure it'd been babied and cherished by its loving owner for them to have kept it all these years.

Nice commentry on the "tin tops" too :)

Your 1975 260Z 2+2 was a lovely car. Very nostalgic photo's.
Did you ever use the luggage rack?
Was that a factory option fitted by the dealer?
I would have thought it would have been a added risk for rust with the drilled mounting holes?

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Reading this is like remembering a old flame....or discovering a lost one!
Forgot the headlight covers, they where trimmed with chrome, also the passenger foot rest or panic foot bar, depending on your driving ability. Old age is a curse, but with a little prompting, the memories flood back.

Glad to see that there are others that don't consider a 2+2 the ugly duckling of the family...

You made me chuckle with your "old flame" and "memories flood back" commentary.
Glad I can be of assistance with your memory and hope the memories were all great ones ;)
With the "panic foot bar" was this an option and if so when (what year) did this become an option and was it ever a standard fitment?
When I first saw this bar I thought it was a aftermarket owner fitted part for rally purposes - that is so that the Navigator has something to press as an imaginary brake.

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Well the luggage rack on the coupe had adjustable slide/width 'L' brackets, so no screw/bolt holes, it was an aftermarket accessory I purchased that the dealer was keen to move, but it was never actually functionally used, I purchased it and the car from John Roxborough Motors in South Melbourne.........no longer there now!
I see this Zed has come up, auto with no air though!!
http://www.classicthrottleshop.com/car14.html
This particular Z for sale appears to have modified carbies & air filters & airbox & oil breather pipe, a chromium grille, missing the plastic fusible link cover but has an original drivers door mirror, an excellent example and original uncracked dashboard by the looks of it!!
My 260Z I purchased, I still visit the original lady owner (an old friend now) when I am down visiting in Melbourne.
There was an original 260Z in NSW at the Nationals 2005 and I kid you not a perfect example if you could get onto this car I am sure it is one you would kill for? I have attached photos.
Lynton 8)

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I see this Zed has come up, auto with no air though!!
http://www.classicthrottleshop.com/car14.html
This particular Z for sale appears to have modified carbies & air filters & airbox & oil breather pipe, a chromium grille, missing the plastic fusible link cover but has an original drivers door mirror, an excellent example and original uncracked dashboard by the looks of it!!

I haven't seen an example like that for a while. Its a shame its not manual and aircon otherwise i'm sure it would be perfect. Although it is in that 70's brown that many understandably don't love, but it is an original colour and car, apart from those points mentioned.
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They are out there.

Purchased mine 6 months ago and its pretty much the same as Lynton's.... 77 2+2, metallic blue, white interior, 5 spd and air con. Its very original and more importantly came with original rego plates, owners manual and documentation. Its had a repaint some time ago which wasn't great and no doubt hides some rust in a few areas like dog legs but otherwise its pretty good.  The only thing missing is the air con condenser for some reason....hasn't had an accident in the front so no clue as to why. It has been fitted with 240 round top carbs and extractors but I'm not concerned as flat tops and cast manifold are easy to find.

I wanted a 2+2 as Ive got a young daughter and wanted to have a car we all could enjoy. Since buying the 2+2 Ive come across an early 240 http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,6400.0.html that has taken priority so the 2+2 is a weekend driver that I will keep as original as possible.

Good luck with the hunt.
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Well the luggage rack on the coupe had adjustable slide/width 'L' brackets, so no screw/bolt holes, it was an aftermarket accessory I purchased that the dealer was keen to move, but it was never actually functionally used, I purchased it and the car from John Roxborough Motors in South Melbourne.........no longer there now!

Glad there were no screws - I must admit I don't know why but I've always like the look of these boot/trunk racks be it on a 60's Mustang Coupe, MGB "Sports Car", 50's Corvette etc.


I see this Zed has come up, auto with no air though!!
http://www.classicthrottleshop.com/car14.html
This particular Z for sale appears to have modified carbies & air filters & airbox & oil breather pipe, a chromium grille, missing the plastic fusible link cover but has an original drivers door mirror, an excellent example and original uncracked dashboard by the looks of it!!

Thanks for the link.
That 260Z 2+2 does indeed look beautiful.
I don't mind the exterior brown colour and of course the black interior is fine, but I think this would have looked better if ordered 'back in the day' with the off white/beige interior.
Again I'm sorry but I'm just not interested in buying a automatic 260Z 2+2.
Curious to know from astute 260Z 2+2 forum members, as to whether they think the $18k asking price is on the money for the current market?


My 260Z I purchased, I still visit the original lady owner (an old friend now) when I am down visiting in Melbourne.

Fantastic !
I do the same with my original owners of my classic cars. Even the ones from the California USA ('68 Mustang).  They love to hear from me.


There was an original 260Z in NSW at the Nationals 2005 and I kid you not a perfect example if you could get onto this car I am sure it is one you would kill for? I have attached photos.
Lynton 8)

Oh my goodness I want it !!!
This is what I would have ordered 'back in the day'.
I just love off white/beige interiors !  I think pretty well any exterior colour, other than white, compliments an off white/beige interior.
Black interiors are also pretty complimentary but hot especially if vinyl seats.
Each of my RX3's have different coloured original interiors.
One is white, one is black and one is orange/tan.
The only coloured which I don't have which was offered for the RX3 was a brown interior - which I personally don't think looks that great. No surprises there as I stated earlier that I didn't want a brown interior 260Z 2+2.


Thanks again for the reply and giving me your time.

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I haven't seen an example like that for a while. Its a shame its not manual and aircon otherwise i'm sure it would be perfect. Although it is in that 70's brown that many understandably don't love, but it is an original colour and car, apart from those points mentioned.

Don't mind the brown exterior - in my opinion this would have been bought new by an older person choosing that exterior colour along with it being an auto.
All in all a very tidy 260Z 2+2 example.
Do you think it well priced?

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They are out there.

Purchased mine 6 months ago and its pretty much the same as Lynton's.... 77 2+2, metallic blue, white interior, 5 spd and air con. Its very original and more importantly came with original rego plates, owners manual and documentation. Its had a repaint some time ago which wasn't great and no doubt hides some rust in a few areas like dog legs but otherwise its pretty good.  The only thing missing is the air con condenser for some reason....hasn't had an accident in the front so no clue as to why. It has been fitted with 240 round top carbs and extractors but I'm not concerned as flat tops and cast manifold are easy to find.

I wanted a 2+2 as Ive got a young daughter and wanted to have a car we all could enjoy. Since buying the 2+2 Ive come across an early 240 http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,6400.0.html that has taken priority so the 2+2 is a weekend driver that I will keep as original as possible.

Good luck with the hunt.

Ah finally some hope of finding what I'm after !  Thank you for the encouragement. Wanna sell the 260Z 2+2 so you can finish off the 240Z?  Love the light blue with off white/beige interior.
Can I ask where you found the 260Z 2+2 as I if you bought it 6 months ago I obviously missed this one ? Was it a word of mouth sale not advertised, maybe eBay? etc
Also how long were you looking before you found it?
I know it's cheeky of me to ask but would love to know a ball park figure to the purchase price.
Thanks for posting too.