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Re: "Z" Register
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2009, 05:25:52 AM »
I uploaded mine on the WAZ register a few years back...it took about 6 months before it appeared !!

Interesting comment Chartoo about having to pay to get on the Waz forum..
If I really loved a "particular" forum, geez Id pay....especially if it helped to keep the site running, and running smoothly.  :)
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Re: "Z" Register
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2009, 05:29:50 AM »
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Re: "Z" Register
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2009, 03:46:44 PM »
Dont get me wrong i think the z register is a great little site. I just get the impression that the fee is keeping the site small with not many new threads. If it was big i would definitely pay...its only 35 buck a year i think.
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Re: "Z" Register
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2009, 07:52:33 PM »
Dont get me wrong i think the z register is a great little site. I just get the impression that the fee is keeping the site small with not many new threads. If it was big i would definitely pay...its only 35 buck a year i think.

OK lets clear up this misconception. There is no fee to use the WA Z Register forums, however some parts of the forum are for WA Z Register Club members.

The WA Z Register is a real-world, government registered, CAMS affiliated car club. You pay to become a club member, just like other real world car clubs.

Membership helps the club keep going, pays for CAMS fees and public liability insurance, and allows the club to put on events like the Track days at Collie, Murdoch Auto test and Z day,  and allows the club to participate in other events like the Classic stampede, Albany round the houses, etc etc, which our members would not be allowed to compete in, if they weren't a member of an official car club.

I think some people get the wrong impression with the WA Z Register website, and think its like sites such as viczcar.com, thezgarage.com or classiczcars.com etc, and internet car club, whose members sometime get together in the real world. In fact the WA Z Registers website is actually it's a car clubs internet presence. The club formed unofficially before there was a website. The website was put up to allow other WA people to find the club.

As a courtesy to the WA Z community, we have a forum on the clubs website. Some of the areas on the forum are for club members only. The club management decided they wanted it that way as an incentive for people to become involved in the club.  The reason the forums are not used much, is because most club activities happen in the real world, members get together for meetings, and talk to each other in the real world, not via the forum. Most communication via the internet between club members is vie email, and the email lists.

Internet car clubs are great, and have their place. I'm not trying to bag them or anything (I love them, I have wasted countless hours on classiczcars.com), but the WA Z Register isn't one of them.  Most of our members just aren't forum type people. We have around 30 registered members, and I only ever see 2 of them post on classiczcars.com, and not very often.

I'm not sure if people are aware of this, but if anything unfortunate was to happen on one of the viczcar organized events (or any other internet club cruise), and a member of the public was injured, then the people that run the website and the forum members that organised the event could be sued by the injured people, for organising the event. That's what public liability insurance is for.

The WA Z Register were not willing to take that risk, and became an official car club, covered by CAMS public liability insurance.

If you want to get out on the track and see what you and your z machine are capable of, then consider joining a registered car club. If you're in WA, then the WA Z Register is one option available to you.
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Re: "Z" Register
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2009, 08:44:03 PM »
Interesting comment Chartoo about having to pay to get on the Waz forum..
If I really loved a "particular" forum, geez Id pay....especially if it helped to keep the site running, and running smoothly.  :)

I actually refrained from saying anything myself, I was up late tired and frustrated with the sites CPU usage issues and I figured I might come across a bit grouchy. Since I know what its like to be a webmaster (especially a single person maintaining a site) I know its tough to keep it maintained up to date and running smoothly - not to mention keeping people happy.

So I understand the position Craig is in :).
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Re: "Z" Register
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2009, 08:49:08 PM »
I'm not sure if people are aware of this, but if anything unfortunate was to happen on one of the viczcar organized events (or any other internet club cruise), and a member of the public was injured, then the people that run the website and the forum members that organised the event could be sued by the injured people, for organising the event. That's what public liability insurance is for.

The WA Z Register were not willing to take that risk, and became an official car club, covered by CAMS public liability insurance.

That's a very valid point Craig and something I think Sulio, Lurch, Craig and I will need to discuss in further detail. I guess we started in a naive manner (well I started the site in that way) and am learning as we go.

We definitely need to address these issues.

I'm not sure if a legal disclaimer on the site would help? I'm no lawyer that's for sure.
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Re: "Z" Register
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2009, 04:34:19 AM »
I'm not sure if people are aware of this, but if anything unfortunate was to happen on one of the viczcar organized events (or any other internet club cruise), and a member of the public was injured, then the people that run the website and the forum members that organised the event could be sued by the injured people, for organising the event. That's what public liability insurance is for.

The WA Z Register were not willing to take that risk, and became an official car club, covered by CAMS public liability insurance.

I disagree Craig - that is what (the ever increasing) TAC insurance is for.

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Re: "Z" Register
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2009, 06:22:57 AM »
I agree Lurch. There is no liability or come back to a Web based Club for road events. Like Lurch says that is what the TAC is for. By the way it is one thing thinking you can sue for damages of any kind, it's another thing winning and even another actually receiving money. By the way to sue someone will cost probably a minimum of 10K. So let's not bandish around dribble about sueing people running things on this site.
Now as for the "Z" register I really didn't want to buy into this one. However now I am on my soap box here goes. I have been around the Zed seen for 15-20 years and I can't even begin to tell you how many times I have heard people talk about a Zed register. I can tell you there are probably 5 half baked registers around the country run by different people at the moment and not one of them is actively kept up to date. Let alone contacting each other to share this information. It is a waste of time having a register unless the person who plans on keeping it actively seeks out Z Car owners and obtains their cars details. I am talking about the Z Register person actually contacting the Zed owner not waiting for the odd person to log onto a particular site and on the rare occassin they might actually feel like completeing a form detailing their cars spec's etc. Hence 90 to 95% of Zeds will never end up on anyone of these "5" registers rendering them next to useless.
My appologies if I have offended anyone here. Whilst a register sounds great in principle, unless you have someone contacting every Zed/Nissan car Club in Australia and then actually calling or emailing the Zed owner hounding them for details then the chances of people wanting to use the register probably won't bother because they know 95% of Zeds in Aus won't be on there.   :-\

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Re: "Z" Register
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2009, 06:43:19 AM »
Hi all,

Craig I have to agree with you comments regarding the validity and viability of "Z" registries, I guess from my point of view having opened this can of worms, it was a case that as"Zed's" go by the way of Sims metal, or end up being parts cars, be they a 2 or 2+2's it's probably a legacy and a responsibility of ours, the owners of the remaining "Zed's" to keep a record of the remaining road going cars.

I say this as the value of our Zed's seems to be heading north each year, and apart from the physical car, knowledge of its past only adds to it's value especially to potential owners in the future, mine for instance was first purchased from a Nissan dealer in Sth Melbourne by a guy from ballarat, im lucky to have all the original documents and service books, and Ive tracked the guy down, he still lives in Ballarat, I havnt contacted him as yet but once the car is finished I intend driving down and letting him have a drive of "His" car from 75, I figure he is in his late 50's now.

I also feel pretty much a heel for not having contributed to this site financially, so Im off today to make a donation, this site has given me so much inspiration and a few stolen idea's that what i contribute wont equate to 1/100 of the value I have gained from being here.

So, from someone who's post's must seem a bit ball breaking at times, I just wanted to thank you all for entertaining and inspiring this 40 something year old going throug a mid life crisis and trying to re-capture a bit of what 1983 and the memories of the first time I came across, and started this life long affair with my "Zed"

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Re: "Z" Register
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2009, 08:15:20 AM »
No worries John. Glad no offence was taken. I guess discussions like the above on furums like this help us all become a little more knowledgable about our beloved Zeds. All the best

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Re: "Z" Register
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2009, 08:33:37 AM »
Thanks for clearing that up Mr Camouflage. I didnt understand the club to be like that. I just thought it was a plain internet forum. Not all that extra things. Keep the good work up ;D
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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2009, 06:37:03 PM »
I disagree Craig - that is what (the ever increasing) TAC insurance is for.

I had to research what TAC is, since its not called that over in WA.

It doesn't cover motorsport events, such as the one the WA Z Register participates in at Murdoch Uni Carpark. So if a car was to hit a spectator, TAC would not pay out, and the spectator would have to sue whomever their layer went after for damages (the driver, the club, the event organisers). Which is why the WA Z Register is affiliated with CAMS for the public liability cover they provide.

TAC would not cover our show and shine "Z Day", if someone tripped over something and injured themselves. Australians aren't as litigation mad as some other countries, but having a little insurance doesn't hurt.

Craig, if you know of any other Z registers around the country, please send me contact details. I don't know of any except the one that is at www.wazregster.com


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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2009, 06:51:57 PM »
Ahhh... That's a slighty different kettle of Pauly's fish, mate ;)

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Re: "Z" Register
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2009, 06:24:13 AM »
And that's why we have CAMS membership which has insurance to cover exactly what you are talking about. Something we are very well aware of over here. It would appear we are talking about two different things here. Competition sprints on a track, yes of course you need to be a member of a CAMS affiliated Club to ensure adequate insurance cover exists. But Club drives and social events are a different kettle of fish. Maybe you needed to be more specific in your initial question Mr Camo.   :)

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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2009, 02:47:19 PM »
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Re: "Z" Register
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