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4 stroke into 2 stroke
« on: September 02, 2009, 05:53:18 PM »
I met a guy about a year ago who told me he has a Dihatsu Cherade. One of the old 3 cylinder jobs. He reakoned he had converted it from 4 stroke to 2 stroke and gained 50% power in the process. At the sacrfice of torque.

Anybody know if it is possible?

Obviously as a minimum it would take a very special cam and ignition setup. Imagine a 2 stroke zed :D

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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 05:58:17 PM »
Man... there are some people out there who are so full of sh*t...

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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 08:13:25 PM »
I once met somebody who told me some old guy gave him a convertible E Type Jag...for nothing...when asked "where is it?"....."oh...I sold it!"... yeah okay..
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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2009, 10:36:44 AM »
I met a guy about a year ago who told me he has a Dihatsu Cherade. One of the old 3 cylinder jobs. He reakoned he had converted it from 4 stroke to 2 stroke and gained 50% power in the process. At the sacrfice of torque.

Anybody know if it is possible?

Obviously as a minimum it would take a very special cam and ignition setup. Imagine a 2 stroke zed :D

hehe, 2 strokes don't have cams....  ;)

You would need to weld up the valve holes in the head and bore ports on either side of each cylinder for the inlet and exhaust to go through.  Then you would have to put sleeves from the outside of the block to the cylinder sleeve to make your ports, ignition would be easy.  Then after all your hard work you'd find out it's no good because the L6 crank viabrates everything to peices before it pulls enough revs for a 2 stroke to make decent power........

Did some old Charade's come with a 2-storke option?  I know daihatsu made some 2 stroke vans  :)
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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 06:13:54 PM »
No its not possible

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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2009, 03:18:06 AM »
No its not possible

So you are using a double negative so then that makes it possible؟

it is possible but it does involve a complete engine replacement - out with the 4 stroker and in with a 2 stroke that is designed and build as a 2 stroke from the get go؟.....sorry just being sarcastic
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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2009, 04:37:44 AM »
That wasnt the question
The question is can you turn the 4stroke into a two stroke
the answer is "No its not possible"
what did you want me to say " Yes its not possible"???

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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2009, 06:33:14 AM »
I think Mike was saying it should be "No, it's impossible". The "No" in front of the "not possible" is how can you say it..cancelling the "not" out?
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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2009, 07:00:46 AM »
wow
Im almost to scared to talk on the forum now. "impossible , not possible" always thought they meant the same thing.

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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2009, 03:25:47 PM »
wow
Im almost to scared to talk on the forum now. "impossible , not possible" always thought they meant the same thing.
lol they do in that context - remember this is the English Language we are talking about and writting like "No its not possible" is a double negative so that has the affect of changing the meaning to be "it is possible" got to love the english language. As Zedman240 pointed out it is more technically correct to state

"No, it's impossible" and even "No, it's not possible" works but "no its not possible" does not due to missing punctuation = double negative, I believe the second one works as the comma make the No and Not appear in different clauses so there is no double negative.

Hell and I failed English + I am a Kiwi and I know how you ozzies love to take the piss (read with a kiwi ascent) about how we speak. From your "Friend in the Fridge"  ;D or for those younger TV viewer "Beached as Bro"  (have not been to Oz for almost 12months so not sure about any new ads) :'(  
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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2009, 03:35:36 PM »
lol they do in that context - remember this is the English Language we are talking about and writting like "No its not possible" is a double negative so that has the affect of changing the meaning to be "it is possible" got to love the english language. As Zedman240 pointed out it is more technically correct to state

"No, it's impossible" and even "No, it's not possible" works but "no its not possible" does not due to missing punctuation = double negative, I believe the second on works as the comma make the No and Not appear in different clauses so there is no double negative.

Hell and I failed English + I am a Kiwi and I know how you ozzies love to take the piss (read with a kiwi ascent) about how we speak. From your "Friend in the Fridge"  ;D or for those younger TV viewer "Beached as Bro"  (have not been to Oz for almost 12months so not sure about any new ads) :'(  

Actually I am a Kiwi as well
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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2009, 04:35:27 PM »
Look out mate they're gonna start on you for not writing "proof reading" now.
More contraversy...... ::)
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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2009, 04:42:19 PM »
All this is about being clear and easy to understand. There may  be thousands of people who will be reading through this thread and the last thing we want is a thread or forum that doesn't make any sense.

I'm sure the English lesson is over now...
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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2009, 04:56:33 PM »
I think you're all full of ****. Read ok to me.
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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2009, 05:16:39 PM »
I hope this doesn't turn into something like those 3D posters that have that hidden image....some can see it straight away, and others take some time ...FFS, can we just let it die?
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Re: 4 stroke into 2 stroke
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2009, 05:16:39 PM »