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Tutorial: SR/CA Gearbox onto L-series engine
« on: October 29, 2008, 06:18:49 PM »
I thought I'd post this up here as I've had a few people ask about the conversion & I've gotten sick of directing people to the FAQ thread on Ozdat... :P

Please note: the S13/R31 gearbox is only a evolution of the Zed box.
Meaning it's only marginally stronger than a 240/260Z box. But it does provide a cheap & readily available conversion.

BIG thanks to Dave & Richard for writing the article!


SR gearbox onto L tutorial.

Parts Required:
L6 gearbox
SR/CA gearbox
New L6 gearbox countershaft bearing (optional) Part Numbers: 63/22C3, TMB3/22C3, or 22BC0655X. Call CBC (www.conbear.com).

Specific Tools Required:
16mm drill bit
Dremel with a small grinding disc.
Optionals: 16mm H7 reamer bit, 41/64ths drill bit.

Step 1:

Remove L6 bell housing from gearbox. To do this unbolt the bolts halfway on the gearbox that go from the extension housing through the sandwich plate to the bell. Also unbolt the cover on the inside of the bell that the clutch arm sits on.
You will then need to remove the circlip on the front of the input shaft bearing. Use circlip pliers and a screw driver.

Put everything aside as you will be using some of it again.

Remove SR/CA bell housing from gearbox following the same procedure.

Step 2:

Remove the SR/CA countershaft front bearing using two chisel point screw drivers to get it started, then lever it off against the bearing (as opposed to the gear) so you don't ruin the gear.

Step 3:

Reinstall the 240Z countershaft bearing. Either reusing the one from the L6 box, or a new one. Gently knock it down with a rubber mallet.

Step 4:

Drill out the 1st/2nd selector shaft hole in the L6 bell housing using a 15 or 16mm drill bit then a 16mm H7 reaming bit. Or you could try a 41/64ths bit if you happen to have one lying around (thats what I ended up using).

Step 5:

Get a dremel/rotary tool and grind away 1mm or so from the countershaft casting on the inside side of the gearbox bell housing. This is necessary as the casting has been modified between the 71B and the 71C to accommodate the wider gears assumedly.

You also need to put a chamfer on the edge which is square standard. I made this chamfer between 1 and 2mm big.

Step 6:

Trial fit this bell onto the SR/CA gearbox being careful of the oil supply cup on the upper passenger side just above the 1st mainshaft gear. Rotate the input shaft by hand. If it is very difficult to turn you need to die grind some more off the countershaft casting in the bell.

Step 7:

When you can bolt the gearbox up and rotate the input shaft easily you are just about ready to bolt the box together.
You could possibly have trouble with the 1st/2nd input shaft not wanting to go into the bell housing because this metal doesn't have any oil sitting on it, I suggest you squirt a dab in there. If the selector doesn't go in it can slide backwards (engaging 1st gear).

If this happens and the gearbox shifter is not in the 1st position you won't be able to select any gears (except 5th/Rev) from then on. If putting some oil in the 1st/2nd selector shaft hole doesn't solve the problem, you can put the gearbox in the 1st position before you bolt it up and it will be fine. Worked for me atleast.

Step 8:

Reassemble the gearbox as you took it apart and you're ready to go. Don't forget the circlip on the mainshaft bearing. Use the L6 front gearbox cover, clutch arm and throw out bearing carrier.


Additional issues:

The SR/CA gearbox has the bolts for the gearbox x-member around 35mm further back than the 71B box. Depends on your car what you do to fix this. Here is what I did, tad dogey, but it works.
This gearbox is also 50mm longer at the end of the tailshaft. I took a tailshaft that was used on a 71B box and had it shortened by 50mm and it fits just fine (after you remove the cover for the front spline as it doesn't fit into the gearbox).

Big thanks to Mad1600 for helping me and motivation. 

Dave (Thehelix).
« Last Edit: January 20, 2009, 11:47:29 AM by Lurch »

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Re: Tutorial: SR Gearbox onto L-series engine
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2008, 06:23:38 PM »
great stuff, thanks.

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Re: Tutorial: SR Gearbox onto L-series engine
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2008, 06:12:03 AM »
lol.
Thanks for posting Lurch man.

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Re: Tutorial: SR Gearbox onto L-series engine
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 08:21:22 AM »
Guys, I want to keep this as 'factual' as I can.
If you've got hard facts, please add them here & I will update the first post.

Please don't post general questions & chit-chat. Thanks :)

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Re: Tutorial: SR/CA Gearbox onto L-series engine
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 08:29:31 PM »
How much power can this gearbox handle before it splits down the middle and you end up walking home.

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Re: Tutorial: SR/CA Gearbox onto L-series engine
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2009, 10:44:02 PM »
The RB20 DE and RB 20 DET box has the same lenght extension housing as a regular L series type extension housing, so, you dont need to worry about getting a tailshaft shortened.
The difference between the DE and DET, is the DET ( turbo) box has thicker selectors forks in 1/2 and 3/4, with a better reverse/fifth slide selector mechanism

The RB 20 DET come out of the R32 skyline rearwheel drives with the 2 litre six cylinder RB motor  ( not the RB25 or RB26 models)
The FJ20 DET will also suit this conversion, its ext housing is the stock lenght, it hasn;t got the big selectors that the rb20dethas, but, the same as the rb20de ( non turbo)

Bugger, I have like nine assorted boxes all of the above all pulled apart and I should take some pics and LEARN HOW TO JOLLY WELL POST THEM

Also I have made up a very neat simple mount to fit these later type box ext housings to our  Late 240/260 shells, using the STOCK gearbox metal cross member, two bits of 12mm thick rubber, and a bit of 5mm thick steel plate
I just race old datsuns:
Group S Historic 280Z ( not a zx but a USA 280z)
Group O/T Historic Datsun Sports 2000
Group G Datsun 120y  with FJ24 fitted( ex G. Fury)
Marque Sports Datsun Fairlady 1966 -SR20DET

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Re: Tutorial: SR/CA Gearbox onto L-series engine
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2009, 04:42:02 AM »
Thanks for the extra info, Jason ;)
« Last Edit: July 11, 2010, 10:25:31 AM by Lurch »

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Re: Tutorial: SR/CA Gearbox onto L-series engine
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2010, 08:17:10 AM »
I followed this procedure and then some when I did my conversion. I have compiled a document about the procedure including missing information around gearbox varieties, gear ratios, fitment, modifications, miscellaneous gearbox information and data and lots of pictures.

Unfortunately the document is 1073kB in size (even with ridiculously low picture quality) and I can only upload 1024kB of data to this post. I have uploaded the document to HybridZ and just wanted to share it here as well. The thread can be found here:

http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php?/topic/75401-l28-transmission-swap-options/page__view__findpost__p__881963
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Re: Tutorial: SR/CA Gearbox onto L-series engine
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2011, 02:09:59 PM »
Just chucking this up for a bit more info I found.
detailed step by step (using pictures) on doing an s14 5 speed swap

http://www.motortopia.com/cars/1973-datsun-240z-11118/car-pictures/240sx-transmission-swap-14041

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Re: Tutorial: SR/CA Gearbox onto L-series engine
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2012, 06:08:08 PM »
300hp at the wheels is about the limit of these gearboxes. Some people will get higher but thats the generally accepted limit

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Re: Tutorial: SR/CA Gearbox onto L-series engine
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2012, 06:08:08 PM »