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DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« on: October 19, 2008, 06:14:15 PM »
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This is a tachometer off my 1973 Datsun 240Z. I am turning the car into a race car, so I have no need for the factory gauges anymore. This tack works perfectly fine and is also in excellent shape. There aren't any crack or chips in it and no missing parts. This tach is factory, so it will only work with regulated points ignition systems. It won't work properly with an electronic ignition without installing an aftermarket resistor. The tach should fit in any 1970-1973 Z dashboards, but I'm not positive on that. Fell free to message me on eBay or call me with any questions you might have. (714) 606-1229 and ask for Mike. Happy bidding!

The above is a quote out of a ebay auction. Currently I have a Monster Tacho installed in my 240Z. I have a electronic dizzy and have a coil that does not use a ballast resistor.

Do I have to install a resistor to make the original 240Z tacho work correctly?

Sorry I do not have clearer pics I will try and get some better pics later.
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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2008, 06:21:07 PM »
Hey Hunter, Talking to Scootag yesterday about my electronic dizzy and he pointed me to this site http://www.datsunzgarage.com/engine/ which if I recall spoke about this exact issue.
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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2008, 07:25:27 PM »
When I had my L series engine and electronic distributor I ran the original tacho and no ballast resistor with no issues. The 240/260 tacho's are triggered from the positive side of the coil i think.
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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 07:41:34 PM »
Dimitri I are you sure it is not the negative side?

I will do some more reading.
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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008, 02:46:32 AM »
Awesome link by the way rev
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THREE ZED'S IN THE SHED

1973 Datsun 240Z Turbo RB25 5 Speed
1974 Datsun 260Z NA L26 5 Speed
1975 Datsun 260Z Turbo L28 5 Speed
1989 300ZX Twin Turbo Z32 5 Speed **SOLD**
2004 Nissan X-Trail
1966 VW Beetle

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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2008, 06:49:22 AM »
yes

I have a l28 electronic dizzy and a late 260z tacho. I have tried a crap load of things and the only thing that worked was to put the old points based coil and ballast resistor connected to the elec dizzy. not good as the spark was *$%^$% so at present i run with the tacho disconnected.

Cool thing was that i ran across a hybridz thread where someone detailed exactly the 10 k resistor mod. SO that is on my list of todo things.

Also there is a post somewhere on the net about someone called nzeder ( i think he is on this site as well ) who got a gauge guy to swap the internals or mod them with some smith gauges internals .
ALSO I ran a multimeter on the positive side of the coil and that is definitely the side that is sending the signal. I traced it to the interior and the mulitmeter works just not the tacho !
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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2008, 07:11:13 AM »
My tacho work exactly the same as it did before i put in the Electronic ignition but even before it did play up and didn't show the right revs. it still does it sometimes.
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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2008, 12:28:37 PM »
To get the 240 tacho to work with electronic dizzy this is what you need to do....

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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2008, 04:01:55 PM »
Where is the IC ignition box located?
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1974 Datsun 260Z NA L26 5 Speed
1975 Datsun 260Z Turbo L28 5 Speed
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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2008, 04:12:02 PM »
That is usually the one on the side of the electronic distributor.
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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2008, 04:14:30 PM »
I thought as much, I will check it out tomorrow. I have 6 days off.
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THREE ZED'S IN THE SHED

1973 Datsun 240Z Turbo RB25 5 Speed
1974 Datsun 260Z NA L26 5 Speed
1975 Datsun 260Z Turbo L28 5 Speed
1989 300ZX Twin Turbo Z32 5 Speed **SOLD**
2004 Nissan X-Trail
1966 VW Beetle

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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2009, 11:21:36 AM »
Hey Hunter, how did you go with all this.

Did you find a solutions to your issue?

An update would be great as I am having similar problems with the tacho and electronic ignition and interested to see how you went.

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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2010, 08:11:05 PM »
sorry for the late reply. The tacho started working, but keeps blowing a fuse.

I am sure it is a electrical short somewhere.
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THREE ZED'S IN THE SHED

1973 Datsun 240Z Turbo RB25 5 Speed
1974 Datsun 260Z NA L26 5 Speed
1975 Datsun 260Z Turbo L28 5 Speed
1989 300ZX Twin Turbo Z32 5 Speed **SOLD**
2004 Nissan X-Trail
1966 VW Beetle

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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2010, 03:35:34 AM »
Spotted my username mentioned in this thread. Yes it was me who had a smiths agent install a new board in my tach. This board is a smiths old jag tach upgrade. Basically the zed tach is licensed copy of the old smith tach. That means it is connected to the positive side of the coil and tach is driven by an inductive loop.

Others have gotten the stock tach to work with EI me I wanted to have my work like a modern tach and connect to the negative side and at the sametime he check/adjusted it so it was showing the correct revs.

I believe the board he installs is from Australia. I am now upgrading all my gauges so my 260z mod tach could be forsale (260z tach have a different font than a 240z)

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Re: DO I HAVE TO USE A RESISTOR TO INSTALL THE STANDARD 240Z TACHO?
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2010, 04:10:20 PM »
NZeder I have noticed you in a few posts on HybridZ with the Speedhut gauges. I have just upgraded my engine to a RB25det.

I am looking at getting a full set of Speedhut gauges myself, is this the way you will be going? Also for the smaller in dash gauges are you going 2"5/8th or 2"1/16th.
I noticed there is two setups on there one with black bezel rings and one with silver bezel rings.

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« Last Edit: March 12, 2010, 04:13:11 PM by Hunter »
WEST COAST OF TASMANIA
THREE ZED'S IN THE SHED

1973 Datsun 240Z Turbo RB25 5 Speed
1974 Datsun 260Z NA L26 5 Speed
1975 Datsun 260Z Turbo L28 5 Speed
1989 300ZX Twin Turbo Z32 5 Speed **SOLD**
2004 Nissan X-Trail
1966 VW Beetle