Alan ( hs30)
I knew the police car existed, while i was at Zama, with Kazuo Hioki, the curator, i asked him, " when was this car made" he said it was made in 1969.
I then asked "was the Police car supplied with this body style as a new car" he said yes.
I asked "do you have original documents from Nissan showing this information" he said "unfortunately no"
Maybe in the interpretation of the first question, he reffered to the Z as a Z, and not secifically as the Police car.
No matter, but the simple fact that Nissan supplied/sold/gifted/claimed tax deductions, for a new vehicle, fitted with a body kit ( G nose, flares, whatever) gives us scope here in Australia, under CAMS group S rules, to apply for the more aerodynamic kit.
Only thing, and this is what I am continuing to be on about, we NEED documentary actual evidence, to put a case forward.
Not heresay, not second hand news, not an email or notes from a historian, not a few unsubstantiated old photos, sure, all this adds to any case to be put.
Tell me, please, the various model variants you mentioned, including 432ZR, 432, other versions, you say was undisputable fact sold in Japan pre end of 1970,
It is this information we here in Australia need, we need sales brochures, dealer documentation, Nissan documentation, sales reciepts ( if any - very hard)
The more information that details the "optonparts" that we need, that were actually fitted, at time of a sale, whether it was from Nissan factory, or just even from one dealer alone, catering for the harder core buyers.
We need brakes (mk63) vented fronts, and disc rear, rims, at 7" or greater, body kits ( g nose) triple carbs
They can be from any S30 model, be it Fairlady Z, 240/260/280 Zz, from anywhere in the world.
CAMS in Australia have set precedent where they will accept a car that fits in the Group S production sports requirements, from outside Australia, but the intending competitor must show indesputable evidence of such car, in whatever variant, as sold or supplied( police car) as a new car
Dimitri( zedman240) the Peter Tobin car if still existing will qualify as a Group T car, gp T is a CAMS category for genuine original prod BASED sports ars WITH a documented history, PRIOR to end 1981.
Gordons race cars, the D'Alberto Z, Lindsay Drife's Tom Cantwells, all have able to be documented history, and will need their logbooks, but best of all today, in 2012, and beyond, they can be raced in Historic category, rather than as a outdated uncompetitive car in Marque Sports.
I have a Group T car, it is nothing special, it complies to rules, but, when it is in the CAMS dictated category for which it must race at a Historic meeting, it is quite up at pointy end of field, and so would ANY one of the above potential Gp T Zeds.
Alan( hs30) how pissible would it be to obtain as much information as above, to be put to CAMS on behalf of the 7 or 8 competitors, in Z cars in Australia?
Once accepted, it should give impetus for others to up spec their cars, and we could have more Z's running in Gp S here.
It is a bit ordinary running behind the $250,000 budget Porsche's, when, if we can "get" what we need, we can be up front, as the Z's once were in USA (porsche give no pharque for japan racing)
Mike NZeder, the rules in NZ are sensible, my T car would be a K car, but my S car, would be hopelessly outclassed by your T&C cars, the silliness of it is, if say a NZ car in T&C was to come over here, it would NOT be allowed to compete in Gp S. a jolly shame!
I and a few others with T cars here are contemplating bringing them over to NZ to run Historic meets, quite a few Aussies have done this, and thouroghly enjoy the NZ motorsport fraternity hospitality.
We are also considering shipping a couple of older Datsuns to USA for the huge Historic meets they have
( two group T cars,, Datsun Sports 2000's of Lea and Henderson) the Yanks are very keen to get them over there.
Enuf now, my brain hurts!
