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Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« on: February 08, 2012, 11:43:27 AM »
I am trying to get to the bottom iof this and i cant get a clear answer

that is the hub bore on the front brakes for a 260z coope?

I am trying to buy bolt on spacers. I am led to believe the 66.1 centre bore is what i need.

I planned on buying "Hub centric" - i assume also this is the right thing to do?

many thanks,
Peter
« Last Edit: February 08, 2012, 11:47:31 AM by Pedro »
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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 11:48:33 AM »
That is for the rear.  The fronts are 73mm.  Don't beleive the BS that is in the catalogues at wheel and tyre stores !

Yes, make sure they are hubcentric, esp the fronts.  If not you will probably get steering wheel wobble. 
« Last Edit: February 08, 2012, 11:55:01 AM by Roberto »
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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 11:59:45 AM »
Many thanks,

lost the better part of a day try to wrok this out.

Hubcentric the go or just normal flat? was thinking hubcentric.
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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2012, 12:10:14 PM »
It's best if the adapter is hubcentric to the bore and also has a wheelcentric lip.  This way you don't just rely on the lugs to centre the wheel.  This gives strength too.

BenZed sells this stuff I beleive.
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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2012, 12:55:27 PM »
Just bought some spacers off Benzed, he didnt seem too fussed on hubcentric so i wont have the hubcentric adaptors there.

Dealing with Ben at least i know it will be right!
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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2012, 12:26:39 PM »
Pulling up an old thread...
(yea, im totally badass!)

So, lets agree that the centrebore of the front hubs is 73mm, because im at work and cant go home to measure it.
Would it be safe to machine it down to 66.1mm


Ignore its not a zed part, its a random pic i found, but the area that the arrow is pointing at, Can that be machined safely down to 66.1mm?
It'll only end up being 3.45mm machined inwards from its origional shape.

I am planning on using some hubcentric bolt on spacers that have a 66.1mm internal diameter.
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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2012, 12:38:47 PM »
Without actually looking at an S30 hub........ I'm going to have to say no.
You would be better off boring the inside diameter of the spacer, larger.
Rather than machining the outside diameter of the hub, smaller.
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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2012, 01:32:59 PM »
that was my first thought too. looks like im going to have to bust out the measuring stick when i get home.
I think that the location of the small amount i want to machine is right in the meat of where the bearing cup is presed in???
However, the 2 main reasons im looking at machining the hub are (and feel free to say they are stupid)

1. The spacer is a PITA to mount in the lathe. It will also render it worth nothing when it comes to resale at a later date.
2. the hub is a LOT EASIER to mount in a lathe. It will also enable ALL 66.1mm (4x114.3) centrebore wheels to fit straight on, instead of on the rear and not the front.
Most if not all modern nissan wheels are a 66.1mm centrebore. (yes, i realise the offsets are completely useless to us...)

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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2012, 01:47:18 PM »
Why not just get spacers that are the correct hub bore size?  Do you really want to take the risk of machining hubs or spacers?  A pair should cost around $100.

Also ensure that the spacer has a wheelcentric lip.  ;)
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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2012, 05:12:50 PM »
because i allready have the spacers, they are nissan 4 to 5 stud spacers.
Besides, most hubcentric spacers only come in a very limited number of sizes, custom made is very expensive.

anyways, i had a look at a dissasembled hub, there is enough wall thickness to accomodate it, and its only skimming a couple of mm off in an angled chamfer cut.
i probably should have just waited till i got home from work and looked, but i was being impatient.




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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 05:36:07 PM »
I'm quite suprised that there is a safe amount of material to remove from the hub.
But good to keep in mind.

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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2012, 06:50:50 PM »
once the measurements are made, its only a very small edge that is removed.
however, i can also see how an engineer may say its a bit of a questionable practice.
For anyone else doing it, consult with your engineer.
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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2012, 08:30:12 PM »
because i allready have the spacers, they are nissan 4 to 5 stud spacers.
Besides, most hubcentric spacers only come in a very limited number of sizes, custom made is very expensive.

Yeah, the 4 to 5 stud adapters are rare and more pricey.

Adelaide Tyre Power had this issue many years ago with my Z.  They ordered 66.1mm hub bore adapters front and rear for wheels they were going to fit to the car.  When they realised the 66.1 adapters didn't fit on the fronts due to the wrong data in their books, they simply added a 5mm wheel spacer between the hub and the adapter to make the adapter clear.   :(  I didn't realise they did this till much later.   Dodgey bumbs......

I think if you take a couple of mm off the hub you will be better off than I was with Adelaide Tyre Power. >:(
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Re: Hub BORE 75 260z coupe 66.1?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2012, 08:30:12 PM »