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March 9 to 11 2012 Phillip Island Classics. hUGE historic event

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dat2kman:
Over weekend of 9 to 11 March, PI hosts Australias biggest historic race and regularity event, with over 500 competing cars.

In regularity, there should be some Z's, and in Group S ( two full grids of 50 plus reserves) thete should be some Z's

Unfortunately, due to pressure brought to bear in Micheal Holloway of the Mini Car Club of Vic, by the 180 strong membership of the Group S racing Association, they jave demanded that no genuine original historic prod based sports cars be allowed to race alongside all the non-historic Group S prod sports cars?
So, this means the Datsun Sports 2000's of Jason Lea, and Brian Henderson, have had their entries rejected. These two cars are genuine historic cars, not like the johnny come lately group S that have NO history requirement.
Are YOU pizzed off at not seeing these two little giant killing Datsuns??
Then get off your bottoms, and email or write to VHRR and ask them to make sure they include ALL genuine historic cars in the future.

The might of a 180 strong group has brough sufficent pressure to bear on the event organiser to NOT allow true cars to race.
Boycott Group S, cancel your membership, yeh right, they are all oh so pukka grpoup british!!
Check out tje verbal spray the Healey Club of Vic gave Jadon, in 2010
Google it up and post a link.

Oh the positive bit!!
I have adked if i can run the gp S 280 z in the fake historic races with all the other fake historic cars
Hopefully i get to visit you Sothern Brethren, agin!!  Yeehaa!

Zedman240:
Found the article... >:(

1600dave:
Jason, out of curiousity, what rules your 2000 out of competing in Group S ?

Got to admit, I loved watching it carve up the opposition the few times I've seen it in the flesh  :)

dat2kman:
It is a proper historic logbooked Group T, which is "production based sports car with a racing history prior to December 1981" as per CAMS requirements.
CAMS has a vehicle compatability matrix, which indicates to event organisers, all the historic groupings, and which groups are best fit with other groups, pretty important when you think of the mismatches that can occur.

My Dato is actually on CAMS website page of all the groups.

In NSW and Qld, event promoters run races for say, " historic sporys cars groups T and S" just like races for Group C and A touring cars.

Mine is a ptoper historic, not a fake. The fakes can get a "historic" logbook for $190, the proper cars have to pay $950, plus costs to elegibilty officers and vehicle examiners, prior to logbook and tje important "certificate of description" being granted. The fakes dont have a COD, but tjey like to strut atound and tell veryone tjey are historic.

I'm spraying well here!

He GSRA has 180 members, the Group T Association, has 15, guess who whinges tje most, and gets listened too!
We know of a furyher 8 or 9 potential group T proper cars in Melbourne!!
Fernandi D Alberto and Tom Cantwell, and Lindsay Drif Zed cars all count, Lurches dad has 2 Austin Healeys, lou mndello has Tom Cantwell Datsun 2000, Paul Trevethan MG giy has 2, BUT, when absolute bull shyte like this goes on, by a CAMS car club at a historic meeting, these otjer cars wont want to come out and play in a hurry.
I have been pushing for Gp T for a while, but when farkwits like the Vic Healet arzeholes carry on, tje Pukka Brit boys etc, tjey just dont like JapCrap.
There are three T cars that also have S logbooks, cos its cheaper, but tje S guys dont mind them, cos tjeyre British.

Hets a fun fact, apoarently MGB's " wete"sold brand new.with a Weber carburretor, APPARENTLY, so now tjey all can use a Weber. When the Zed guys ask for the proof and what needed to be shown, ie so we can get triple mikunis and bigger brakes, we are told, sorry no, that info is for MGB guys, you have to prove Zeds wete sold NEW with bla bla bla fitted
Ffs we race against bloody fourwheel disc Porkets and V8 detomatoes, nt the brit rust shyte, but no..

No wonder Pete Hall got the tomtits, and resigned from CAMS commisdion.

I just like being a farken PITA, and will continue, while i can!

zr240:
Are Tom and Lindsay's car pre 90? Thought they were built around the time of my zed?


It's all about who you know in historic. It's a joke really.

Even when your car has the full historic log book with cod they question the car. Usually I am very quiet when he scrutineers pick things out on my cars no matter how silly I think they are. But when you have cod and they say we're are the headlights. It never had them? The doors are not big enough. That how the car was built and log booked? Etc etc

The group t thing pisses me off as well as I though I ms be able to rn my 94 logged booked marquesports car as it was as the ran them in the 80s and out of depth in current marquesports field.

There are so many cars from the 80-early 90 that would fit into group t that have no were to run at the moment.

Cams are just against helping Motorsport from most accounts. And a lot of the people in high places are only in it for the own interest . It's a shame because it could all be a lot better and more fun.

We also have a jag e type tha ran in production sports cars in the 70s that has f5000 brakes as fitted and run bet that would cause a stir! Or they would just not allow it!

Ash

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